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United engiresco

United engiresco wrote:How about less patriotic? I'm not pledging allegiance to a country if I don't want to, I'm not singing the national anthem if I don't want to. Less patriotic. More patriotic would likely result in making people more radical in patriotism and blind to facts.

They shouldn’t have to but encourage them to way more then they already do

United engiresco

Greater Icelandia wrote:Damn.

Please refrain from posting single-word-messages in the RMB.

Velaland

At least where I live my school wasn’t tests didn’t just require memorization of stuff we didn’t need to know necessarily. We had tests on what we thought of the subjects and stuff like that. We weren’t graded based on how wrong or right we were, we were graded for tests like that by how strong our argument was, or the reasoning behind what we said. I’d be very surprised if this isn’t a thing in other countries.

Apabeossie and Velaland

United engiresco

Velaland wrote:They shouldn’t have to but encourage them to way more then they already do

Your ideas would likely turn America into another Germany...

That would probably make the problems of racism and blind nationalism even more abundant.

United engiresco

Patriotism is completely fine. Nationalism is not.

United engiresco

United engiresco

Greater Icelandia wrote:That would probably make the problems of racism and blind nationalism even more abundant.

Exactly my point. I don't want America to be any worse than it is.

United engiresco wrote:Your ideas would likely turn America into another Germany...

Are you talking about the nazis? If yes, don’t compare my ideas to nazi Germany, you would be sent to jail for not saying h**l h**ler

United engiresco

Velaland wrote:Are you talking about the nazis? If yes, don’t compare my ideas to nazi Germany, you would be sent to jail for not saying h**l h**ler

Yes, I'm talking about them. Your ideas literally sound like what the Nazis would do. Not even them, the damned Soviets too.

United engiresco wrote:Good luck doing that in a classroom anywhere in America. You... literally cannot talk to anyone.

You mean during class? In class you would be quiet sometimes (etiquette) and speak on the subject sometimes. School should have more discussion and debate imo.

During recess? That's harsh. (as long as you aren't talking about social distancing)

United engiresco wrote:It really is. We shouldn't be graded really at all, but have creativity and innovation prioritized. Yes, things like math are useful, but who's gonna use... say the Pythagorean Theorum? Well, I'm definitely not...

There should be a review, mostly on things like the student's potential or personality, and maybe some class things. Like that's what a teacher is supposed to do.

United engiresco wrote:No. It's because of the Industrial Revolution. Everything wrong with schools here today can be traced all the way back to that.

Tbf I don't think it was better before the industrial revolution? It's more from the desire for the authority to push their stuff on students.

Greater Icelandia wrote:At least where I live my school wasn’t tests didn’t just require memorization of stuff we didn’t need to know necessarily. We had tests on what we thought of the subjects and stuff like that. We weren’t graded based on how wrong or right we were, we were graded for tests like that by how strong our argument was, or the reasoning behind what we said. I’d be very surprised if this isn’t a thing in other countries.

In South Korea it's mostly multiple-choice testing, while written has been growing it's still a small part.

Velaland wrote:They shouldn’t have to but encourage them to way more then they already do

They should not be told what to think about their country. They should engage in thinking and sharing opinions instead of being blindly told.

United engiresco, Greater Icelandia, and Velaland

Considering what has been happening in US recently that they honestly aren’t that far off.

Prussian-union wrote:*Sweats Nervously in minecraft chicken genocide*

*sweat nervously in minecraft chicken spinner fire*

Apabeossie wrote:You mean during class? In class you would be quiet sometimes (etiquette) and speak on the subject sometimes. School should have more discussion and debate imo.

During recess? That's harsh. (as long as you aren't talking about social distancing)
There should be a review, mostly on things like the student's potential or personality, and maybe some class things. Like that's what a teacher is supposed to do.
Tbf I don't think it was better before the industrial revolution? It's more from the desire for the authority to push their stuff on students.
In South Korea it's mostly multiple-choice testing, while written has been growing it's still a small part.
They should not be told what to think about their country. They should engage in thinking and sharing opinions instead of being blindly told.

Interesting. How much multiple choice? I had like 5-15 multiple choice and then 2 paragraphs/essays (depending on the grade level) *(These were only for English, Secondary Language, Science and Social Science in my school)

Velaland

United engiresco wrote:Yes, I'm talking about them. Your ideas literally sound like what the Nazis would do. Not even them, the damned Soviets too.

No they don’t, I also want to teach America’s faults, the nazis would glorify Germany’s faults

United engiresco

Apabeossie wrote:You mean during class? In class you would be quiet sometimes (etiquette) and speak on the subject sometimes. School should have more discussion and debate imo.

During recess? That's harsh. (as long as you aren't talking about social distancing)
There should be a review, mostly on things like the student's potential or personality, and maybe some class things. Like that's what a teacher is supposed to do.
Tbf I don't think it was better before the industrial revolution? It's more from the desire for the authority to push their stuff on students.
In South Korea it's mostly multiple-choice testing, while written has been growing it's still a small part.
They should not be told what to think about their country. They should engage in thinking and sharing opinions instead of being blindly told.

1: Just in the classroom.
2: Agreed.
3: Well, the Industrial Revolution did contribute substantially to shaping how schools are now (in the UK and USA, at least)
4: That's good, at least they speak humanity.
5: That's exactly what I've been saying.

For me speaking was fine as long as it wasn’t too loud to distract other people and on topic.

United engiresco

Velaland wrote:Our school system needs to be more patriotic, also if you finish your work you should be able to go home and not sit for hours

I refuse to bow down to a country I don't even agree with.

United engiresco

Velaland wrote:No they don’t, I also want to teach America’s faults, the nazis would glorify Germany’s faults

I don't like patriotism because of how much it turns into nationalism

United engiresco wrote:I refuse to bow down to a country I don't even agree with.

Ok, but even if not you should still be a little thankful to live here, imagine living in North Korea

Patriotism doesn’t always become nationalism. It isn’t completely because of the education system but also on upbringing.

Apabeossie and Velaland

Post self-deleted by Greater Icelandia.

United engiresco

Velaland wrote:Ok, but even if not you should still be a little thankful to live here, imagine living in North Korea

I don't like America much anymore because of how broken we are.

I'd take anywhere in Scandinavia over this wreck.

New skandenivia

United engiresco wrote:I don't like America much anymore because of how broken we are.

I'd take anywhere in Scandinavia over this wreck.

you have to pay more taxes in Scandinavia

United engiresco

United engiresco

Velaland wrote:you have to pay more taxes in Scandinavia

I'd take paying more taxes over not having free healthcare Engales

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