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Einswenn, Apabeossie, and Rivierenland
Post self-deleted by The new mexican confederation.
I still don’t see how this goes against “hate speech ≠ free speech”
Here’s a free based opinion for you, Yurop:
Hate speech cannot be justified & tolerated in any way.
You’re welcome.
The New Nordic Union, Yahlia, Apabeossie, Rivierenland, and 2 othersAnskerdank, and Welfare zealand
Because ANY speech is free speech no matter what, anyone can deem anything hate speech and have it censored. However any speech doesn’t make it okay by any means.
Of course I was right 😏
Dizgovzy, St Scarlett, Apabeossie, Rivierenland, and 2 othersLibertandonien, and New skandenivia
Context is still important though, and it shouldn’t be the government’s issue unless the speech is a threat or call to action. (Good example being Trump’s initial response to the raid of the capitol building)
Apabeossie, The Oriental Empire, Rivierenland, and Libertandonien
Yeah but nobody should want 100% free speech because that would be chaos. It should 100% be illegal to cause mass panic by shouting “fire” or “bomb” in a crowded public area or to say “Let’s go kill everyone from this specific group”.
Einswenn, The New Nordic Union, Rivierenland, and Libertandonien
I believe you also know that in reality hate speech doesn’t limit itself with expressing opinion only. Theoretically maybe, in fact – no.
I also want a neko 😔
Yes, I deleted my almost published second based opinion: absolute freedom is not possible because absolute freedom of one violates absolute freedom of another. Same goes for speech.
Yahlia, St Scarlett, Apabeossie, Rivierenland, and 4 othersLibertandonien, Sukitopia, Owlograd, and Viktorias
You can always create a new nation.
Einswenn, Rivierenland, Sukitopia, and Owlograd
Alright then I’m just gonna accept your opinions and move on because frankly I’m pretty tired.
Nobody said anything about banning them, this is you instinctively jumping to defend them, which radiates suspicious vibes.
Now you're arguing that hate speech = free speech, do you even know what hate speech is?
We already outlaw incitement of violence, we outlawed encouraging suicide, we have outlawed child porn and the US has outlawed threatening its president.
Facts are simple, we have already restricted various forms of speech and expressions to protect individuals and groups, but yet people still think that going out and claiming sick hateful nonsense about gays or other marginalised groups is okay because it's a right to expression?
Cambridge dictionary: "public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation," it's kind of a no brainer that it should be illegal.
Einswenn, Yahlia, St Scarlett, and Rivierenland
Yeah, I might do that actually.
I'll give a little opinion about this: everybody knows that hate speech is harmful, speaking about killing, segregating, or any other form of violence is clearly hate speech and is basically a threat (ex. if I say that I want to beat all the people with curly hairs because I consider them inferior, well that's a threat).
In these years the problem was more in the gray areas, from ideas and parties that were odd and aggressive, but not openly speaking about violence.
A good example is what happened with Capitol Hill on 06/01, at first it was only a "rigged election" claim and people didn't tought it was too extreme, but the outcome was an assault at the congress, and only at that point it was clear that it was hate speech.
Where did this debate come from?
Idk... I think me?
The new mexican confederation and Anglonica
You LITERALLY said in another post we should ban them and shame them I’ll leave it at that
Yahlia and St Scarlett
Imo education is key. More education on political ideologies, what they stand for and their activities throughout history.
My card collection isn’t that bad anymore tbh (it’s not pro but I like it), I even got a Dizgovzy card this morning :)
If that is true then I greatly apologize but it is extremely suspicious when 2 zealand accounts come out of nowhere at the same time, sorry if I misunderstood or misjudged you.
Owlograd and Welfare zealand
Nah nah he's India
It's no problem, I thought it was Diz who wanted to joke with me but it seems to be someone else. ✊😔
St Scarlett, Rivierenland, and Libertandonien
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