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Esteemed members of Forest,
I come before you today to call for the closure of our embassy with the region of Force. 224 days ago, we opened an embassy with Force, certainly with good intentions in mind. However, recent actions taken by elements of the regional government of Force have diminished the region's reputation, and it is no longer in Forest's interest to have our embassy with Force remain open.
The events at the heart of the matter start with the region of The Socialist Syndicalist Union. A couple of days ago, their founder password protected the region, kicked everyone out, and left. The native population of the region was left in disarray. The government of the region came together and resolved to re-found the region that night. However, unbeknownst to them, elements of Force acting under the region's Prime Minister's authorization moved to intercept the re-founding attempt. When the founder of Force, Renegalle, heard of this operation, they took no steps to prevent it from occurring.
Unfortunately for the natives, the elements Force was able to re-found the region before they were. After which, Force went to require the native population of The Socialist Syndicalist Union to hold a referendum on whether they should enter into the Union of Force. These actions were condemned in a joint statement released by United Regions Alliance, The West Pacific, The North Pacific, and The Pacific. With international pressure mounting, the region was handed back over to the natives.
The recent actions taken by elements of Force's government do not reflect well on them. In the aftermath, they tried justifying their actions, claiming it was a joke. However, the question we as a region need to ask ourselves is whether we really wanted to be associated with another region that commits acts like these? Their international reputation is in shatters, with four other regions since closing embassies with Force.
Under Article 6, Section 6 of the Forest Constitution, "Any resident nation of Forest can call for the closure of an embassy with another region, provided they post on the RMB legitimate reasons for their proposal." As such, for the aforementioned reasons, I am calling for the closure of our embassy with the region of Force.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=505575 - Link to the URA-TWP-TNP-TP Joint Statement on Force
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Normally I wouldn't change Daarwyrth's flag either, but all the cool pride designs just inspired me and go for it after all c:
Really, it's heart-warming to see so many pride colours in flags here. As a gay man, it makes me feel welcome and safe <3
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I agree that the embassy with Force should be closed. Their founder has displayed immature behavior in the past. If I was active back when our region was deciding whether to open the embassy, I would have voted and advocated for NO!
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Adios religion get revoked
Atsvea, Middle Barael, Difinbelk, The new dynasty, and 3 othersThe scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
I feel like this perfectly describes the whole herding cats and living off the cat-milk dairy and using cat wool for clothing and shelter.
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I was mentioned in this message, so I felt an obligation to respond.
Since this joint statement was made, we have released our own statement and Krovx, Acting Syndicate Overseer of TSSU, has released his own. I do not wish to argue with anyone here, you are all good people. I just wish to show two other perspectives that are missing from the joint statement.
Our statement: https://forcens.com/index.php/topic,1069.0.html
The Acting Syndicate Overseer's statement (in his personal capacity): viewtopic.php?f=12&t=505644
Seen and acknowledged. I will speak with the necessary government figures to assess the threshold of community interest needed to fulfill the constitutional requirement associated with this article, in order to bring the matter to a vote.
Citizens - please review Sacara's post and the linked information, as well as the information posted in response by Renegade, above. If you have a position for or against such a vote being held, please feel free to state it here or send it to me via telegram.
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I will "Like" any post specifically identifying a position on this matter, in order to acknowledge that it has been seen/counted - that way we don't spam the board any more than needed.
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I support what Sacara posted.
Verdant Haven, Sacara, Jutsa, Atsvea, and 8 othersRuinenlust, Simbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
I support the activation of article 6 section 6 of the constitution against the embassy with Force.
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Yep! in Bishkek it is usually done on 8 March, for Women's Day marches that end up having an LGBT+ rights part, but also 1 May for the same reason. Generational changes may lead to more progress. However we also should not take it for granted that as the world ages it always will get more progressive, cause the opposite has happened before (like Middle East).
Einswenn, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Terrabod, and 6 othersMiddle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
I am in favor of a referendum, myself.
Verdant Haven, Einswenn, Sacara, Atsvea, and 8 othersRuinenlust, Simbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
I support Sacara's argument and I am in favour of a vote on the closure of the embassy.
Verdant Haven, Sacara, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 7 othersSimbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
As most regional members are stating, I have read Sacara's message and am in full favour of closing the embassies with Force, and with bringing it to a referendum.
Verdant Haven, Sacara, Daarwyrth, Atsvea, and 8 othersRuinenlust, Simbolon, Middle Barael, The most serene republicans, The new dynasty, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
O honorable badass-bi-flag culture minister Terrabod, does forest have a pride version of it's updated flag for celebration purposes?
Einswenn, Daarwyrth, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 8 othersTerrabod, Simbolon, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
Made my first flag change! I'm still a bit jealous of the nice graphic design on many nations' flags, especially the integration with the pride flag. Have a great pride month!
Einswenn, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, and 7 othersTerrabod, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
Updated my flag to show support, it's the best I could do.
Einswenn, Atsvea, Ruinenlust, Canaltia, and 7 othersTerrabod, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
Yeah I’d expect it would be super hard for a flag like yours, but somehow in your vexillological prowess you made it work. Seriously, how do you all do it
On a side note, I just realized that I somehow know a Pan-demi-sexual demi-girl, a pan-romantic person, a pansexual person, and two bisexual people all my age, yet not a single gay or lesbian my age. Meanwhile, I know a few gays/lesbians in older generations, yet no bi or pan people. I wonder if it is a generational thing, since gender and sexuality are understood to be fluid much more today than they used to be
Can I use a rainbow flag from my favorite ethnic group?
Atsvea, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, and 3 othersThe scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
I don't see why not, but I do find it more than slightly odd -- and perhaps worrying -- that you have a 'favorite ethnic group'.
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I am sorry, but does anyone know how to revert to mobile NationStates? I accidentally turned it off and browsing on desktop on phone is painful.
Atsvea, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, and 4 othersTalbot settlement, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
Go under Theme and you can change it.
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I appreciate the praise and I relate to your remark about gender fluidity and generations.
Atsvea, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, and 4 othersTalbot settlement, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
Thank you! It worked.
Atsvea, Middle Barael, Nation of ecologists, The new dynasty, and 5 othersTalbot settlement, Femputer, The scientific utopias, Capitalist kazakhstan, and Greene valley
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