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Coppatilism wrote:Legend has it every body part needs a trim under the right circumstancesThe second oneI have a 3.9+ right now. Screw you, 89.47 in ELA 9th grade.

It says we cut kids

I've been warned even though I don't want to debate

Eleven walnuts

Gaeo wrote:Exactly. Religon is the core of so many terrible things across the world. We would all be better off without it.

Yes this is very true I agree!

Homophobia, sexist gender roles, the family institution, marriage and not allowing divorce, justifying domestic abuse, and being really sensitive about alcohol, wearing no clothes, sexual relations and activities, and using certain "curse" words are some of the things religions do to manipulate people.

Gaeo

The church of satan

Whoa, Reppy liked my post! :P

Pre-christian persecuted people

Rivinist wrote:What are you talking about this world is mostly secular why are you bring religion into this?

Being secular is a religion in itself. Older religions accepted all. There were homosexual, transgender gods, instances of men giving birth and all around acceptance. There was a saying which roughly translated means “what seems unnatural is also natural”.

But of course, three mainstream religions had to come and unleash hell on earth and push it to dark ages.

Coppatilism

I admire communism but it's too idyllic to work. I'm part of the Russians who initially embarked on this expedition. First state USSR. And they did not support homosexuals. Cuba is communist and they do not support homosexuals. It is odd how you hate Putin but he is trying to sustain socialism.

The church of satan wrote:Whoa, Reppy liked my post! :P

S'good post!

The church of satan and Thepeopl

Eleven walnuts

Rivinist wrote:If you had not realized not many governments are theocracies that are countries that run on religion. Second, if you had not noticed homosexual acceptance is creeping into religion. So your statement is wrong. Look at the pope for example.

Some religions accept LGBT because more people use religion than people who don't. In other words, there's more people into religions than people who are not into a religion.

It appears new gen z and zoomers are just trying to be communist but can't. You guys are basically the knock off socialists

Rivinist wrote:I admire communism but it's too idyllic to work. I'm part of the Russians who initially embarked on this expedition. First state USSR. And they did not support homosexuals. Cuba is communist and they do not support homosexuals. It is odd how you hate Putin but he is trying to sustain socialism.

Putin is not a socialist in any way.

Eleven walnuts

nation=eleven_walnuts
I honestly see a paradoxical reasoning in your thinking

Eleven walnuts

Rivinist wrote:I admire communism but it's too idyllic to work. I'm part of the Russians who initially embarked on this expedition. First state USSR. And they did not support homosexuals. Cuba is communist and they do not support homosexuals. It is odd how you hate Putin but he is trying to sustain socialism.

The USSR was against LGBT because most people still had homophobic beliefs they and everyone around them were raised by. Those were the standards at the time, people were much more brainwashed and were much closer to old country. There was more conservative pressure in the times of the USSR than there is today. The same with Cuba. Cuba is very catholic and a lot of people comply and support catholic norms, so that's the main root of homophobia in cuba.

Putin is not trying to sustain socialism. Putin is a capitalist. He supports tsar. He wants to re create the oppressive Russian Empire, and not the socialist USSR.

Aandruzognivia and Gaeo

Putin grew up in socialism and tries to maintain the values. Just stop talking do not argue with the russians who developed its first state.

I'm sorry but that is not right AT ALL.

Rivinist wrote:Putin grew up in socialism and tries to maintain the values. Just stop talking do not argue with the russians who developed its first state.

He is a capitalist

Eleven walnuts

Rivinist wrote:Putin grew up in socialism and tries to maintain the values. Just stop talking do not argue with the russians who developed its first state.

*AHEM*
Review this post, particularly the underlined:

NationStates Moderators wrote:The case is not closed, and you do not get to repeatedly spam "no debate" to get out of arguing your stances, nor do you get to flamebait by implying your opponent is gay for simply disagreeing with you and flame by implying your opponent is mentally impaired requiring therapy.

So you've really got three options here:
1) Actually debate your stance instead of going "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOOOOU."
2) Drop the subject if you cannot actually do #1.
3) Keep up with the spamming and flaming and find yourself enjoying a vacation from the RMB.

You don't get to tell your opponents to just stop talking. If you cannot actually debate your points, perhaps then it's time to drop the subject.

The church of satan, Coppatilism, and Gaeo

Eleven walnuts

Rivinist wrote:Putin grew up in socialism and tries to maintain the values. Just stop talking do not argue with the russians who developed its first state.

Putin grew up in a socialist state but he didn't choose that. He didn't choose to be born in the USSR. He didn't choose for the Bolsheviks to form the USSR, hence Putin does not support the Bolsheviks. Putin claimed to support the USSR at the time so he can get an occupation in the KGB, so they can give him more money.

Putin believed that the USSR was decaying the old values of Russia (which is true, and that's a good thing - because the USSR was socialist for all, the Russian Empire was Russian slavic nationalist that tortured and oppressed non slavs), so Putin secretly wanted to restore the old russian empire, and was influenced by the tsar dictator.

The Russian Empire is very different than the USSR. Putin supports the old oppressive empire, and not the modernized communist USSR.

Pre-christian persecuted people

Rivinist wrote:Putin grew up in socialism and tries to maintain the values. Just stop talking do not argue with the russians who developed its first state.

If you know Putin, why did he create oligarchs in the first place? If he wanted USSR part 2, why give specific industries to specific people and actually promote capitalism by allowing US firms in the country? Of course it came back to bite him but not by much since economy recovered but why did he allow Tsar to have state funeral and why give prominence to Orthodox Church. It is not so simple. He doesn’t want to expand but he doesn’t want to create USSR, which will then create Gorbachev part 2, most hated man in Russia.

Gaeo and Eleven walnuts

Post by Rivinist suppressed by a moderator.

Pro-tip: Don't call your opponents deluded.

Aandruzognivia, Coppatilism, and North Finslisia

Eleven walnuts

Pre-christian persecuted people wrote:If you know Putin, why did he create oligarchs in the first place? If he wanted USSR part 2, why give specific industries to specific people and actually promote capitalism by allowing US firms in the country? Of course it came back to bite him but not by much since economy recovered but why did he allow Tsar to have state funeral and why give prominence to Orthodox Church. It is not so simple. He doesn’t want to expand but he doesn’t want to create USSR, which will then create Gorbachev part 2, most hated man in Russia.

Putin created oligarchs because he is like a tsar, like a dictator. He promoted capitalism and old country monarchism (tsar).

Rivinist wrote:I'm just gonna leave because it seems you are just an adverse figure to me in total. But before I do, look up Vladimir Jaffe on youtube, he is a soviet who talks about soviet life. I do not agree with him because I love soviet times, but he does elaborate on why people with your ideas are just deluded. Bye

Putin doesn't want to reinstate the modern soviet union, he wants to recreate the oppressive russian empire.

You love soviet times, because the soviet times were not lead by Putin. Putin never lead the Soviet Union.

Gaeo

NationStates Moderators wrote:Pro-tip: Don't call your opponents deluded.

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Beautifulland 2 wrote:Check out my new dispatch!

Dude thats the mods

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