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Station 8 wrote:

I'm against it. Even if some like having a "shiny badge", I think we should keep with the original meaning and award them to the genuine bad guys. If we allow TBH, etc, to cheapen it we are the losers.

Note also the implied compliments in the reolution - powerful military, exceptional speed, records broken, etc.

I urge everyone to vote against.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of keeping prominent condemnations for wrongdoings*, myself. Unfortunately, the modern SC powers at be aren't in so much agreement. (Although I do believe some of the condemnations that still exist for those who've done *ahem* DOS-level wrongdoings ought be removed.)

That said, I'd hardly find condemning Lily to be an example of "cheapening" it. We already have condemned many individuals, such as Noahs Second Country, Australian rePublic, etc. for genuine contributions and the like. Lily is imo a community that darn well deserves official recognition in some form; of course, having worked with many of their members ages ago, I'm clearly biased.

Still, they practice a pretty skilled level of raiding that is not remotely as destructive as a good few other sets of raiders. Given the current SC political climate, I'm genuinely surprised they're not so in favor of recognizing this and promoting better raiding practices overall.

Edit: Also, it's actually the exception and not the rule anymore for someone to not find a condemnation a badge of honor. ;p