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Hfhbsd wrote:Wow, most of it's directly copied and pasted from Northern astra's Alnobian Citizenship Act.

Yes, that is why it is called the revised citizenship act. bruh

Sulavia wrote:Ooooo did you hear half the government of Alnobia resigned and fled to a foreign region but still wants to govern.

Lol yeah. this is absurd. They want to dictate what happens in a region they are too scared to enter.

Yankeedomland wrote:Yes, that is why it is called the revised citizenship act. bruh

It adds nothing. Nothing. The only change it makes is a single-time termination of the citizenship of everyone who isn't in the region, which definitely isn't for political gain... (And destroying all of the BBCode)

New eberron and Potato valley region

Potato valley region

Yankeedomland wrote:Here's the thing dude. You guys left out of your own free will. We alnobians reserve the right to govern our region. Even after you left, you still wished to dictate over our affairs. We want reconciliation. You guys refuse to move back, so we are holding our elections, and then, even though it is you who refuses to move back and work together, you get mad! We want to govern our region, so we are instituting this act. What do you want? To govern over a region that you dont want to be a part of?? Give me a break! This is absurd.

All we want is for you to stop being mean, and excluding us, and to agree to the peace deal! We are citizens and we deserve the rights that we are entitled to us! We do want to be part of Alnobia, but only if it is fair and democratic! If you want reconciliation, at least respond to the peace deal!

Hfhbsd and New eberron

Sulavia wrote:Ooooo did you hear half the government of Alnobia resigned and fled to a foreign region but still wants to govern.

Oooo did you hear after half the government resigned and temporarily left the region as a protest against the actions of the other half, that other half elected only their members to office with complete disregard for the beliefs of the other half, and then is trying to delete all the laws we've made together and replace them with tyranny making the half that left unable to rejoin no matter what happens?

Hfhbsd and Potato valley region

Potato valley region wrote:All we want is for you to stop being mean, and excluding us, and to agree to the peace deal! We are citizens and we deserve the rights that we are entitled to us! We do want to be part of Alnobia, but only if it is fair and democratic! If you want reconciliation, at least respond to the peace deal!

Then come back! You are free to enter! We hold immediate election primaries, but only if you move back. You cannot just move to another region and then whine when you can't dictate what happens in Alnobia.

New eberron wrote:Oooo did you hear after half the government resigned and temporarily left the region as a protest against the actions of the other half, that other half elected only their members to office with complete disregard for the beliefs of the other half, and then is trying to delete all the laws we've made together and replace them with tyranny making the half that left unable to rejoin no matter what happens?

Did you hear that half of the government resigned and moved to another region and then got mad when the other region wished to have control over their own affairs? if you want reconciliation, move back, no one's stopping you.

Potato valley region

When I wrote the peace deal, it seemed like both sides were about to agree. So I wrote it to be fair and unbiased. But you haven't even posted about it once. It isn't mentioned. I had planned for it to involve cooperation, and civil debate, not this insanity.

Hfhbsd and Northern astra

Yankeedomland wrote:Here's the thing dude. You guys left out of your own free will. We alnobians reserve the right to govern our region. Even after you left, you still wished to dictate over our affairs. We want reconciliation. You guys refuse to move back, so we are holding our elections, and then, even though it is you who refuses to move back and work together, you get mad! We want to govern our region, so we are instituting this act. What do you want? To govern over a region that you dont want to be a part of?? Give me a break! This is absurd.

We did leave out of our own free will, and last I checked, we're Alnobians too, so we should, theoretically, have a say in fixing the problems you caused that made us leave our own region. We also want reconciliation. You're just trying to stop us from reconciling. Did you really expect you could force us back by threatening to revoke our citizenship? Nice try. It's not going to work. Real leaders don't need to use threats to control their people.

Hfhbsd and Potato valley region

Potato valley region

We are not moving back until a peace deal is approved! If we move back now, nothing is stopping you from changing your mind, and then we are back to the status quo.

New eberron wrote:We did leave out of our own free will, and last I checked, we're Alnobians too, so we should, theoretically, have a say in fixing the problems you caused that made us leave our own region. We also want reconciliation. You're just trying to stop us from reconciling. Did you really expect you could force us back by threatening to revoke our citizenship? Nice try. It's not going to work. Real leaders don't need to use threats to control their people.

I am not threatening you. I am saying this: We want control over our own affairs. if you want to move back and participate, you are free to do so. Either way we are closing the loophole so things like this dont happen again.

Yankeedomland wrote:Did you hear that half of the government resigned and moved to another region and then got mad when the other region wished to have control over their own affairs? if you want reconciliation, move back, no one's stopping you.

You mean, besides you? You're stopping us. You took over the government and threatened to revoke our citizenship for upholding our beliefs.

Hfhbsd and Potato valley region

Yankeedomland wrote:I am not threatening you. I am saying this: We want control over our own affairs. if you want to move back and participate, you are free to do so. Either way we are closing the loophole so things like this dont happen again.

It's not like we can just move back. You've already done too much.

Northern astra and Potato valley region

I am so fed up with this entitlement. Do you really expect that you can leave the region with no clear intention to return, and then demand that you still have control over the very region you left???

New eberron wrote:You mean, besides you? You're stopping us. You took over the government and threatened to revoke our citizenship for upholding our beliefs.

How am I stopping you lol, i'm literally encouraging you to return

Potato valley region

Yankeedomland wrote:I am not threatening you. I am saying this: We want control over our own affairs. if you want to move back and participate, you are free to do so. Either way we are closing the loophole so things like this dont happen again.

You have been threatening us the whole time. You have threatened to take away our right to vote, to run and to be citizens. And "controlling your own affairs" isn't correct. It's still our affairs. You just want to be in control.

Hfhbsd, New eberron, and Northern astra

Potato valley region wrote:We are not moving back until a peace deal is approved! If we move back now, nothing is stopping you from changing your mind, and then we are back to the status quo.

What peace deal do you want? Offer up a peace deal and we'll see what happens.

Yankeedomland wrote:I am so fed up with this entitlement. Do you really expect that you can leave the region with no clear intention to return, and then demand that you still have control over the very region you left???

We did have an intention to return. This was as a protest. We want to come back, but we can't because of you. We need to WORK TOGETHER to make this work. We can't do that if the only one allowed to do anything is you.

Hfhbsd and Potato valley region

Potato valley region wrote:You have been threatening us the whole time. You have threatened to take away our right to vote, to run and to be citizens. And "controlling your own affairs" isn't correct. It's still our affairs. You just want to be in control.

You left the region. You are the guy who willingly walked away. Actions have consequences. It's just life

Sulavia

Potato valley region

Yankeedomland wrote:I am so fed up with this entitlement. Do you really expect that you can leave the region with no clear intention to return, and then demand that you still have control over the very region you left???

According to Alnobian law non-residents can retain citizenship for two weeks. It has been 5 days. We still have our rights.

Hfhbsd

New eberron wrote:We did have an intention to return. This was as a protest. We want to come back, but we can't because of you. We need to WORK TOGETHER to make this work. We can't do that if the only one allowed to do anything is you.

Who is the one who wants to dictate what other people do in their region? Not me. I'm not stopping you guys from doing anything in your region. But you want to stop me from doing things in my region?

Yankeedomland wrote:How am I stopping you lol, i'm literally encouraging you to return

Uh, you're telling us we can return, but why in our right minds would we want to? Nothing's better than when we left. You are removing the democracy we all made together.

Hfhbsd and Potato valley region

Potato valley region

Yankeedomland wrote:What peace deal do you want? Offer up a peace deal and we'll see what happens.

Higher Law: Official Peace Deal

by Potato valley region

Higher Law:
The Seblarians and Catopians should agree on a set of principles/rights that are higher than all others:
1.) The right for all nations to be treated equally under the law.
2.) Whenever a post is suppressed, their must be a reason, whether NS or Alnobian law.
3.) The right to a fair and speedy trial, which has a jury, no double jeopardy and the accused has the right to know the charges against them
4.) All actions before September 3rd are to be forgiven, and all nations full amnesty.
5.) Higher law overrules the Constitution, which overrules the laws, which overrule executive orders, unless in a state of emergency.
6.) Every citizen has the right to vote, and every eligible citizen has the right to run for office.
7.) All elections must be fair and democratic.
Read dispatch


This has been pinned in both regions!

Hfhbsd and Northern astra

Yankeedomland wrote:Yes, that is why it is called the revised citizenship act. bruh

Differences checked:
https://www.diffchecker.com/kv36DQem
Apart from the introduction, immediate effects, and how to retain citizenship, and some minor formatting differences, it is exactly the same as the original. I think you might want to cite Northern astra for kindly providing the original for you to copy?

Potato valley region

New eberron wrote:Uh, you're telling us we can return, but why in our right minds would we want to? Nothing's better than when we left. You are removing the democracy we all made together.

I removed the democracy? I let elections go ahead and let Alnobians choose their leaders. What did you do, besides demand that another region doesn't do what its people want it to do?

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