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Orlannn wrote:

Is the nation more important or the ethnic group that controls it.Are nations only the domains of the people they belong to like a tool or do they have value beyond that like something sacred or holy or are so they intertwined that they are the same entity.

Ι believe that a nation is merely a representation of the people in it, a very pretty Idea/concept. In the "ideal" nation, of let's say, Vipathe, only aesthetically and mentally pleasing peoples are desirable. Much like the ancient Greek Kallos philosophy.

"The ancient Greek word "Kallos" means "beauty" and is associated with both women and men. However, the meaning of "Kallos" in its ultimate dimension, is not just a word that means only "beauty". It is an ideal that developed in ancient Greek thought, was expressed through the epic (8th century BC) and lyric (7th - 6th century BC) poets and was gradually crystallized in the texts of the philosophers of the 5th / 4th c. BC. who, from then on, referred to it as a combination of physical appearance and the virtues of the soul."