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Nyock wrote:words only have the meaning we assign them, and that is a gross over generalization

A gross oversimplification... huh... Say no more!

Dilber wrote:Hi, I'd like to register a vote in the poll for Madjack on behalf of all TWP.

Thank you for your consideration.

on behalf of me, i don't have anything to say.

Vyata Temor wrote:Really? I thought it was only a map.

Eras is also a TNP admin for the forum and discord

The cascadian bioregion

Oh cool I now have a billion people in my nation.

does anyone know about when the s3 cards could possibly release

Super Cool Liechtenstein and Unsinkable sam

The cascadian bioregion

Unsinkable sam wrote:Congrats

Thank you.

Govornia and Unsinkable sam

The cascadian bioregion wrote:Oh cool I now have a billion people in my nation.

*looks at his 100m population*

Govornia and The cascadian bioregion

[quote=govornia;43932370]Allow me to define irony for you fellow, there’s verbal irony, dramatic irony, and situational irony which is the one you speak of. That’s the inequality of the actual sequence of events when compared to the “normal” or expected sequence of events. So when you say that him calling people with correct grammar racist, it is ironic, but not necessarily acceptable. In the same way, me spamming the n-word in the RMB would be ironic because I’m not really to type of person who would do that. Me flying like Superman would also be situationally ironic because people can’t do that, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be cool or interesting. So, you see, ‘ironic’ is actually quite a very vague or general adjective, but is still often misused.

I agree Govornia too
Sorry for the bad quoting

Post self-deleted by Siberia union.

The cascadian bioregion

Siberia union please don't double post.

Govornia

The cascadian bioregion wrote:Siberia union please don't double post.

What did I double post?

Govornia

Gothgraff and Lilium wrote:After some deliberation, Me and Volstokn have decided to implement a deadline in which the full storyline must be done as of September 30th, 2021. So I have roughly 140 Days to get the remaining 9 Posts out of the aWtCW series. On Average I should have around half a month between each post. Next 2 Posts keep with the Original Storyline, the 4 posts after that will be Moving it to Volstokn, and the last 3 Are going to be the Prelude / Before the usage of the AARR. Of course, total post count can change.

Volstokn will be gone by the end of the year🦀

But for the time being, I have no motivation to write.

5 Dinar says you miss the deadline

:P

The cascadian bioregion

Siberia union wrote:What did I double post?

You posted twice in a row.
That's a double-post.

Govornia

Siberia union wrote:Sorry for the bad quoting

its ok, you can edit a post by pressing the edit button on your post to fix it if you want

you can use [/quote] at the end of a quote to fix it

also instead of posting twice you can edit it and add on to your post to prevent clogging up the rmb :)

The cascadian bioregion wrote:You posted twice in a row.
That's a double-post.

But what exactly? I need that post so I can delete it

Govornia and The cascadian bioregion

The cascadian bioregion

Siberia union wrote:But what exactly? I need that post so I can delete it

Posts, because there's more than one.

Siberia union wrote:Sorry for the bad quoting

Siberia union wrote:Allow me to define irony for you fellow, there’s verbal irony, dramatic irony, and situational irony which is the one you speak of. That’s the inequality of the actual sequence of events when compared to the “normal” or expected sequence of events. So when you say that him calling people with correct grammar racist, it is ironic, but not necessarily acceptable. In the same way, me spamming the n-word in the RMB would be ironic because I’m not really to type of person who would do that. Me flying like Superman would also be situationally ironic because people can’t do that, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be cool or interesting. So, you see, ‘ironic’ is actually quite a very vague or general adjective, but is still often misused.

I agree Govornia too

Jakit wrote:me?
how are we best friends?
I didnt even know who Govornia was until today.
Stop it.
You are a troll but if you change then you won't be called a troll.

You two defend each other always and this sudden defending makes me not believe that you just met him today

Siberia union wrote:You two defend each other always and this sudden defending makes me not believe that you just met him today

My man...what are you trying to prove here

Zapiron wrote:My man...what are you trying to prove here

nvm...

Govornia

Govornia

Nyock wrote:words only have the meaning we assign them, and that is a straw man

Yeah, words only have the meaning we assign them—that’s what ‘defining’ is. But people will assign different meanings to words based on their subjective opinion, and these meanings often stray from what is objectively ‘correct.’ I suppose the Nazi=disagree thing is a straw man to some small degree but it still does function as an example of a much larger phenomenon that supports my argument. It is still evidence. If it was the only thing I said, it would be a straw man, but in this case it is effectively being used to prove a point. I could list further examples, including misuse of the word ‘ironic’ or the phrases ‘could care less’ or ‘lucked out’ and they would not be straw men anymore because they fall under a larger principle. They are still relevant, and what else would I be able to use to support my argument that words are misused besides examples of words being misused??

That is mostly irrelevant anyway. Look, yes, words function based off of the definitions their creators and users give them, but in many cases their creators’ definitions, or official defintions should be prioritized over their users’ because the public can still misuse words. Just because “words only have the meaning we assign them” does not mean that some meanings they are assigned are incorrect, especially since there are multiple people assign them their meanings, often warped to their own ideals—and words HAVE to have meanings in order to function! It doesn’t make sense to claim “words exist, therefore people can use them however they want and be correct.” It doesn’t prove anything because people wouldn’t be able to use words if words didn’t have meanings!

And I realize this might be another straw man, but what you are saying, regardless of the vernacular part, would mean that I could say “jet jumps nose big hurriedly water Jacob” would make sense and be usable if I assigned the following definitions: jet means I, jumps means like, nose means to, big means watch, hurriedly means television, water means on, and Jacob means Fridays.

And the whole “words only have the meaning(s) we assign them” raises the entire headache of—because humans invent words, and all humans are subjective, nothing anybody ever says can actually be a fact because their users invent what they mean, and all that would matter is if the claim is mostly regarded as fact by the majority. But then again, people are subjective, so like I said earlier the majority could be objectively wrong. Based on one’s opinion, every political election could be an example of this.

Every single thing somebody could say is technically an opinion because the words they’re using were given their definitions by a means of opinion. “People use their legs to walk” is an opinion because each of those words could have very well ended up with a different common definition. “The sentence, ‘people use their legs to walk’ is a fact” is also an opinion. Everything I’m saying right now would be opinions even if 100% of people agree with me, making my claims effectively facts but still not technically facts.

See, it just becomes a stupid time-wasting conversation at this point. But I believe your point was that words are open to interpretation, which is obviously true, but you also implied the most often followed interpretation will always be objectively correct, which is not true. *Sometimes* the commonly-accepted definition can be correct, but not always. Then again, correctness is also up to interpretation! See, because it’s impossible for people to be entirely objective, it’s just a huge paradox.

Do note that for once I didn’t spend hours fact-checking myself on Wikipedia before responding to you, so...I don’t know if my argument or opinion is as sound as it could be.
Siberia union wrote:You two defend each other always and this sudden defending makes me not believe that you just met him today

I had never heard of this person before today. At first I was only defending them because I enjoyed reading their conversation with another person, and then somebody else insulted them out of nowhere for no reason. I have continued defending them because I agree with their actions and statements; that doesn’t mean I knew them beforehand.

If I meet someone who likes Roger Federer, and then side with them in a debate about Roger Federer, that doesn’t mean I’ve known that person for a long time.

Do you see my point? You haven’t even been here for more than one day. If you had been here earlier you would have been able to see that I never knew this person. You’re wrong to say I always defend this person because I literally haven’t known them for over 99.99% of my life. You only believe what you said because today was the first day you’ve been here, so all you’ve been able to see is me “defending” this person.

Oh great, is the RMB dead now? I was hoping Nyock would respond to me.

Italy and malta and Siberia union

Italy and malta

Govornia wrote:I don’t feel like reading ten Wikipedia articles about fallacies and grammar theory to make sure my ensuing counter-argument is correct.

Yeah, words only have the meaning we assign them—that’s what ‘defining’ is. But people will assign different meanings to words based on their subjective opinion, and these meanings often stray from what is objectively ‘correct.’ I suppose the Nazi=disagree thing is a straw man to some small degree but it still does function as an example of a much larger phenomenon that supports my argument. It is still evidence. If it was the only thing I said, it would be a straw man, but in this case it is effectively being used to prove a point. I could list further examples, including misuse of the word ‘ironic’ or the phrases ‘could care less’ or ‘lucked out’ and they would not be straw men anymore because they fall under a larger principle. They are still relevant, and what else would I be able to use to support my argument that words are misused besides examples of words being misused??

That is mostly irrelevant anyway. Look, yes, words function based off of the definitions their creators and users give them, but in many cases their creators’ definitions, or official defintions should be prioritized over their users’ because the public can still misuse words. Just because “words only have the meaning we assign them” does not mean that some meanings they are assigned are incorrect, especially since there are multiple people assign them their meanings, often warped to their own ideals—and words HAVE to have meanings in order to function! It doesn’t make sense to claim “words exist, therefore people can use them however they want and be correct.” It doesn’t prove anything because people wouldn’t be able to use words if words didn’t have meanings!

And I realize this might be another straw man, but what you are saying, regardless of the vernacular part, would mean that I could say “jet jumps nose big hurriedly water Jacob” would make sense and be usable if I assigned the following definitions: jet means I, jumps means like, nose means to, big means watch, hurriedly means television, water means on, and Jacob means Fridays.

And the whole “words only have the meaning(s) we assign them” raises the entire headache of—because humans invent words, and all humans are subjective, nothing anybody ever says can actually be a fact because their users invent what they mean, and all that would matter is if the claim is mostly regarded as fact by the majority. But then again, people are subjective, so like I said earlier the majority could be objectively wrong. Based on one’s opinion, every political election could be an example of this.

Every single thing somebody could say is technically an opinion because the words they’re using were given their definitions by a means of opinion. “People use their legs to walk” is an opinion because each of those words could have very well ended up with a different common definition. “The sentence, ‘people use their legs to walk’ is a fact” is also an opinion. Everything I’m saying right now would be opinions even if 100% of people agree with me, making my claims effectively facts but still not technically facts.

See, it just becomes a stupid time-wasting conversation at this point. But I believe your point was that words are open to interpretation, which is obviously true, but you also implied the most often followed interpretation will always be objectively correct, which is not true. *Sometimes* the commonly-accepted definition can be correct, but not always. Then again, correctness is also up to interpretation! See, because it’s impossible for people to be entirely objective, it’s just a huge paradox.
I had never heard of this person before today. At first I was only defending them because I enjoyed reading their conversation with another person, and then somebody else insulted them out of nowhere for no reason. I have continued defending them because I agree with their actions and statements; that doesn’t mean I knew them beforehand.

If I meet someone who likes Roger Federer, and then side with them in a debate about Roger Federer, that doesn’t mean I’ve known that person for a long time.

Do you see my point? You haven’t even been here for more than one day. If you had been here earlier you would have been able to see that I never knew this person. You’re wrong to say I always defend this person because I literally haven’t known them for over 99.99% of my life. You only believe what you said because today was the first day you’ve been here, so all you’ve been able to see is me “defending” this person.

W h a t

United engiresco

Wonderful textwall above me. Fantastic.

Good afternoon, RMB. Thought I would say hello.

I'm probably not gonna post for a few months after this. Cya.

Govornia, Ibb and taizz, Madrueji, and Super Cool Liechtenstein

Italy and malta wrote:W h a t

Yeah, sorry. That’s an example of what happens when I feel the need to correct someone. 🤷🏼‍♂️ What can I say? I’m a no-life keyboard warrior at heart! Obsessed with objectivity!

Italy and malta wrote:W h a t

You do not see his point? that means either you did not read it because it is long, or, you did read it, you just ignored the point

Govornia

Who would win? 1 billion lions or every single type of pokemon

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