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Woofworf wrote:do world assembly votes change your ranks

What do you mean by rank?

How did I get put here?

Kaliitnuunati

Hestarre wrote:How did I get put here?

If you just re-established, Balder is one of the four regions you can be put into I believe.

Southern stighbelleyopia

I HAVE NUKES AND FIRE BOMBS READY TO BE USED

Terra arabia

Southern stighbelleyopia wrote:I HAVE NUKES AND FIRE BOMBS READY TO BE USED

Baller

Terra arabia

Robert downey jr wrote:I don't know about centuries of neutrality, Finland literally joined Russia's opponents in the last major European war.

Unintra wrote:Did you read that in an article? If so, did it include sweden? I'm guessing that they're saying that sweden is the one with centuries of neutrality, finland i'm guessing several decades?

Kaliitnuunati wrote:Switzerland has been neutral the longest, but near the same time as Sweden due to the napoleonic wars

Unintra wrote:Wasn't switzerland invaded by napoleon?

Kaliitnuunati wrote:Yeah, but Sweden entered the war willingly meaning both "broke" neutrality at the same time. Swiss neutrality being willingly broken in the napoleonic wars is odd because if you count them being invaded as no more neutrality then yeah they ended it but if not then Switzerland has been neutral longer then Sweden because Sweden joined the war on it's own judgement.

I know I'm late to the party, and Kaliitnuunati kind of answered this thread, but it is more complicated than that and I think it is deserving of a comprehensive explanation. So, the nations that are usually referenced as neutral nations or have a history of being neutral are Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Switzerland.

Norway's neutrality was established in 1814 by the Treaty of Kiel but arguably ended its neutrality in 1940 when it was invaded by Nazi Germany. Much of the Norwegian Government along with the Royal Family was able to escape. They actively advocated for the defeat of Nazi Germany and many Independent Norwegians fought on the side of the allies. Their neutrality officially ended when they joined NATO in 1949.

Finland has been neutral since 1948 with the Finno-Soviet Treaty. Even though the agreement ended in 1992, after the collapse of the USSR, Finland continued to stay neutral even after joining the EU in 1995 under military non-aligned, but ended their neutrality after applying for NATO membership after Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

Sweden's neutrality started in 1812 with "The Policy of 1812" but their neutrality wasn't recognized until 1814 in the Treaty of Kiel. Since then, they have not actively participated in any armed warfare, but have had arguable moments of conflict. The first was in the First War of Schleswig, from 1848 to 1851, where Swedish troops were stationed in Jutland in the defense of Denmark against Prussia but never saw combat. The second, where Sweden tried to create the Scandinavian Defense Union and pursued a program of nuclear armament but both failed. And the last, where Sweden developed a secret negotiation with NATO where NATO would gain access to the Swedish military in the scenario of an invasion by the USSR. However, Sweden officially ended its neutrality, like Finland, by applying to NATO after the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Switzerland is arguably the oldest neutral nation in the world and has not been in armed warfare since 1516. The first sign of Swiss neutrality is in the treaties of Noyon and Brussels in 1516. This is where the Old Swiss Confederacy first officially declared independence from all foreign conflicts. The Swiss would be involved in the Thirty years war (1618-1648), however, the nation continued to stay neutral and other than hired Swiss mercenaries, no Swiss troops were engaged. The arguable part of their neutral comes when the First French Republic invaded Switzerland in 1798 by the request of French speaking Swiss. The French created a satellite state called the "Helvetic Republic" which was dissolved by the Austrio-Hungarians and Russians in the 1803 Act of Mediation which created the Swiss Confederacy. However, Napoleon rescinded his agreement of Swiss autonomy and occupied the country until his removal in 1815. During the invasion of Switzerland in 1798 and the Napoleonic Wars, Swiss troops did fight but many historians argue that because Switzerland was invaded and occupied by the French, they were forced to fight in wars and did not actively seek out a fight in a war.

As you can probably see, the definition of neutrality is complicated because foreign policy is complicated. Does negotiating with or trying to create a military alliance count as staying neutral? Does defending your national sovereignty count as staying neutral? Does fighting in a war as a puppet state count as staying neutral? Nobody really has an agreed upon answer. However, most can agree on 2 things: (1) Both Norway and Finland do not have as long a history of neutrality as Sweden and Switzerland do and (2) Out of the 4 nations, Switzerland is the only one still "neutral".

Bestelesnia, Unintra, Gitche Gumee, and Kaliitnuunati

Kaliitnuunati

Kendell wrote:I know I'm late to the party, and Kaliitnuunati kind of answered this thread, but it is more complicated than that and I think it is deserving of a comprehensive explanation. So, the nations that are usually referenced as neutral nations or have a history of being neutral are Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Switzerland.

Norway's neutrality was established in 1814 by the Treaty of Kiel but arguably ended its neutrality in 1940 when it was invaded by Nazi Germany. Much of the Norwegian Government along with the Royal Family was able to escape. They actively advocated for the defeat of Nazi Germany and many Independent Norwegians fought on the side of the allies. Their neutrality officially ended when they joined NATO in 1949.

Finland has been neutral since 1948 with the Finno-Soviet Treaty. Even though the agreement ended in 1992, after the collapse of the USSR, Finland continued to stay neutral even after joining the EU in 1995 under military non-aligned, but ended their neutrality after applying for NATO membership after Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

Sweden's neutrality started in 1812 with "The Policy of 1812" but their neutrality wasn't recognized until 1814 in the Treaty of Kiel. Since then, they have not actively participated in any armed warfare, but have had arguable moments of conflict. The first was in the First War of Schleswig, from 1848 to 1851, where Swedish troops were stationed in Jutland in the defense of Denmark against Prussia but never saw combat. The second, where Sweden tried to create the Scandinavian Defense Union and pursued a program of nuclear armament but both failed. And the last, where Sweden developed a secret negotiation with NATO where NATO would gain access to the Swedish military in the scenario of an invasion by the USSR. However, Sweden officially ended its neutrality, like Finland, by applying to NATO after the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Switzerland is arguably the oldest neutral nation in the world and has not been in armed warfare since 1516. The first sign of Swiss neutrality is in the treaties of Noyon and Brussels in 1516. This is where the Old Swiss Confederacy first officially declared independence from all foreign conflicts. The Swiss would be involved in the Thirty years war (1618-1648), however, the nation continued to stay neutral and other than hired Swiss mercenaries, no Swiss troops were engaged. The arguable part of their neutral comes when the First French Republic invaded Switzerland in 1798 by the request of French speaking Swiss. The French created a satellite state called the "Helvetic Republic" which was dissolved by the Austrio-Hungarians and Russians in the 1803 Act of Mediation which created the Swiss Confederacy. However, Napoleon rescinded his agreement of Swiss autonomy and occupied the country until his removal in 1815. During the invasion of Switzerland in 1798 and the Napoleonic Wars, Swiss troops did fight but many historians argue that because Switzerland was invaded and occupied by the French, they were forced to fight in wars and did not actively seek out a fight in a war.

As you can probably see, the definition of neutrality is complicated because foreign policy is complicated. Does negotiating with or trying to create a military alliance count as staying neutral? Does defending your national sovereignty count as staying neutral? Does fighting in a war as a puppet state count as staying neutral? Nobody really has an agreed upon answer. However, most can agree on 2 things: (1) Both Norway and Finland do not have as long a history of neutrality as Sweden and Switzerland do and (2) Out of the 4 nations, Switzerland is the only one still "neutral".

It's definently more complicated than what I said, this is a lot more comprehensive and explains it a lot better

Kaliitnuunati wrote:It's definently more complicated than what I said, this is a lot more comprehensive and explains it a lot better

I agree, and I have no idea what's going on because I don't want to read.

Terra arabia

The Nation of Nathan wrote:I agree, and I have no idea what's going on because I don't want to read.

Technically Switzerland was netural before Napoleon attacked but it wasn't recognized by Europe until after 1815.

Woofworf wrote:do world assembly votes change your ranks

Yes. If you want to avoid being affected by one, resign before the legislation takes effect and then rejoin. Laws only apply to you if you were a member state when the law was passed. Ironically, this means a repeal passed for a law passed while you weren't a WA member will still "remove" the effect, so you can actually have your country (say) get reduced freedoms if an ancient civil rights law from before you started playing gets repealed.

Daqueenknucklestopia 2 wrote:snip

Wow. That's really bad words here I will not quote the original message. but hopefully you will get banned form nation-states.

HELLO

Experina wrote:Wow. That's really bad words here I will not quote the original message. but hopefully you will get banned form nation-states.

While I share your frustrations, in general it is best to ignore trolls like this rather than responding to them. Your response is what they want to see. Being ignored and reported, on the other hand is what starves them.

Alcohhoulism wrote:HELLO

Hello!

Black banner states

I just came back. What is this region?

Black banner states wrote:I just came back. What is this region?

Balder. This region is Balder. You Ceased to Exist and now you're here with us.

Robert downey jr and Terra arabia

Black banner states wrote:I just came back. What is this region?

Nations that CTE are removed from their region. When they revive, they need a new region, so they are randomly assigned to Balder, Lazarus, of Osiris, which were made for revived nations by the game.

Robert downey jr

Jackuul wrote:now you're here with us.

Forever.

Black banner states

Robert downey jr wrote:Forever.

Ok

Black banner states wrote:Ok

Welcome! We hope you stay but you can change regions if you like.

We have a guide for newly revived nations here:

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🞜 A guide for newly revived nations 🞜

Welcome to the Realm of Balder!
It's good to have you here!

Yeah great, but why am I here?

Balder is one of the nine Game Created Regions (GCRs) in NationStates. A GCR is a region that serves a specific function within NationStates. GCRs don't have a founder, unlike User Created Regions, instead having an executive World Assembly Delegate who leads the region. GCRs are defined almost as much by their function in the game as they are by their members, giving them a distinctive position and character within NationStates. There are essentially two kinds of GCR in the game - Feeders and Sinkers. The five Feeder regions - the Pacific regions - are where nations go when they are founded for the first time. Which Feeder you are placed into is chosen at random. If you don't log into your nation for 30 consecutive days, it ceases to exist and is sent to the boneyard. If you log back in and reactivate it the nation is then refounded and placed at random into one of the three Sinker regions - Balder, Osiris and Lazarus. The ninth region is The Rejected Realms. This is where nations banned from a region are sent, and is where you will be refounded if you are banned from all three of the Sinkers.

Oh right, I see. Tell me more about Balder!

The names of the three Sinker regions are drawn from mythology and are linked to stories of death and rebirth. Balder is named after the Norse god of the same name. Balder was a son of the god Odin and the goddess Frigg. He was slain by his brother Hodur, who had been tricked into killing Balder by Loki the mischief-maker. It is said that Balder will emerge from the underworld after Ragnarök (the Norse apocalypse) to rule the new world.

We are, as a result, a Norse themed region. This theme runs throughout Balder, and shapes many parts of our culture. Various parts of our region, such as Ragnarök and Breidablik, are named after places in the mythology.

Our Delegate is styled King or Queen, and is referred to as either His/Her Majesty or, more formally as His/Her Nordic Majesty. The current King is Dragonian Kazaman.

The King is assisted by a Vice Delegate, styled Crown Prince or Princess. The current Crown Princess is A Leaf on the Wind.

The Prince of Ribe is Fooooooooo.

There are also Royal Dukes, including Alvalero, North East Somerset and Onder Kelkia

There is also a small nobility, which uses Norse themed titles. There are also various chivalric orders, including the Knights of Odin and the Knights of Bragi. Noble titles and knighthoods are awarded by the King, and are reserved for those who have served Balder with distinction.

Our government is headed by the Statsminister, and the various ministers make up the Statsraadet. The Statsminister is elected every three months and is responsible for much of the day to day running of Balder. The Statsraadet are appointed by the Statsminister.

Our parliament is the Storting, and it is a bicameral legislature. The upper chamber is the Lagting, which is formed of the three Princes and the members of the nobility, and is headed by the Crown Princess as the President of the Lagting. The lower house is the Odelsting, which is open to all citizens of the region, and is formed of those citizens who have applied for membership. The Odelsting is headed by the Talman.

Balder also operates an army, the Jomsvikings, who participate in military operations across NationStates, often alongside our allies.

Awesome! How can I get involved?

We encourage all nations resident in the region to apply for citizenship here in Balder. You can do this by heading over to our LinkForum. Here, you can LinkApply for Citizenship and LinkIntroduce Yourself. You can also head over to Balder's LinkDiscord and say hi there too!

As Balder's security hinges on a strong and secure Delegacy, all citizens are asked to have a World Assembly member nation in Balder which is endorsing the King (and ideally the other members of the Royal Family).

Citizens are also asked to join the Jomsvikings. This gives them an opportunity to get involved in our military operations. Those who are more peacefully inclined can also join Balder's Civil Service. From here they can participate in Balder's government. All citizens are also eligible to apply for a seat in the Odelsting, and after a while can run for the office of Statsminister.

That's all cool, but I'd quite like to go back to the region I was in before. Can I?

You can. There are two ways you to change which region you're in:

Move to another region

If you know where you'd like to go, first search for that region by hovering over The World on the side menu and then clicking Search. Once you have found the region you want, go to that region's main page. On there you will see a button, just below the regional factbook entry and above the "World Census Report" which says "Move [your_nation] to [region]". Click on the button to move to that region. Some regions are password protected, which means you won't be able to move your nation there without the password.

Start your own region

You can start a whole new region by going to the Change Region page, and clicking the Found a New Region! button towards the top.

You mentioned the World Assembly. What's all that about?

The World Assembly (WA) is a bit like the NationStates equivalent of the United Nations. By its own description "The WA is the world's governing body. Membership is voluntary, but all member nations must abide by legislation it passes."

The WA is formed of two parts. The General Assembly concerns itself with international law. It drafts, proposes, and passes resolutions that affect all member nations. The Security Council responds to the actions of individual regions and nations, commending those who are an example to others, and condemning those that do harm to others.

Both chambers submit proposals that are voted on by all member nations. The proposals work the same way in both chambers and need a majority of the votes cast in favour to pass. This is where a region's World Assembly Delegate comes into play. WA nations can endorse each other, increasing the endorsed nation's power and influence within the region. A region's Delegate is the person in the region with the most WA endorsements.

Some regions give their WA Delegate executive powers, giving the Delegate substantial control over the region itself. Founders of UCR regions have the power to strip the Delegate of their executive powers, however, leaving them with just their voting rights. GCRs on the other hand are founderless, and are controlled solely by their executive Delegate. For most nations, regardless of the number of endorsements they have, their vote only counts as one vote. The vote of a WA Delegate on the other hand counts as the number of endorsements they have, so if a WA Delegate has 300 endorsements and votes Aye on a resolution, their vote counts as 300 votes and increases the Aye column by that much.

If you want to join the World Assembly, go to the World Assembly page and click the "Apply to Join" button towards the top. You can leave the WA at any point by navigating to the same page and clicking the "Resign" button. Please note that you can only have one nation in the WA at a time.

If you want to endorse another nation or be endorsed by one, both you and the other nation need to be in the WA and in the same region.

To endorse a nation, go to the bottom of that nation's page, and click the "Endorse [nation_name]" button.

To withdraw your endorsement, go to the same place and click the "Withdraw Your Endorsement" button.

If a nation leaves the WA or the region, they will lose all their endorsements.

Great! So I get to build up my endorsement count and become Delegate, right?

No. The Delegate is an elected position and the incumbent Delegate, as King, can serve for as long as he deems fit. The Crown Princess as Vice Delegate is his designated successor, and while he is nominated by the King he must also be confirmed in position by a vote. These elections are held on our forums and only Citizens of Balder can vote. Citizens wishing to become the Delegate would therefore need to be elected to the position by their fellow Citizens, or succeed to the role after serving as Vice Delegate. Aspiring Citizens should bear in mind that they are unlikely to become Delegate without demonstrating a sustained and long term commitment to Balder and proving themselves capable in a number of other senior roles.

Many regions have an endorsement cap for resident nations, which can usually be found on the region's page. The cap is the maximum number of endorsements your nation is allowed to receive in a region, and you may be penalised for exceeding this cap. Balder's endorsement cap is 5 for nations not endorsing the Delegate, and 25 for nations that are endorsing the Delegate. If you exceed this cap, you will be warned and asked to encourage those endorsing you to unendorse you so that you go back below the limit. If you do not comply, you will be ejected from Balder, which will remove all your endorsements. You will be able to rejoin the region, but will rejoin with no endorsements. While there is no limit to how many nations you may endorse, please do not endorse nations that exceed the endorsement cap.

Given the substantial power and important status inherent to the position, it is sensible for regions with an executive Delegate, particularly GCRs, to ensure that nations do not get too close to the Delegate in endorsements. If someone were to gain more endorsements than the current Delegate, they would take control of the region. Endorsements also generate influence for the endorsed nation, and if a nation with enough influence becomes Delegate, they may be able to use their new position to force out the legitimate Delegate and government.

Endorsement caps therefore act as a security measure. The King does not have an endorsement cap, although the Crown Princess and Princes do. The specific caps for the Crown Princess, Prince and Royal Dukes can be found here. These higher caps allow the Crown Princess and Princes to assist in defending the King against coup attempts by building and expending their own influence to remove hostile forces.

In order to prevent invasion and safeguard the security of the region, it is advised that you endorse the regional government. It will usually tell you who to endorse on a region's page. We encourage all nations in Balder to join the World Assembly and endorse King Dragonian Kazaman, as well as the Crown Princess and other Royals, where they are below their endorsement caps.

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Balder cookies

Why Hello Balder! Due to the growing expansion, and my growing love to share Cookies with everyone across the world, I'm here now!

I am here to warm the hearts of the people of Balder!

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Cookies After Dark:

Freshly baked, always the glowing imagination of a sweet treat that can't be beat, anything goes, from flat to all puffed up, soft and chewy to hard and packs a punch to your mouth.

Hot and Cold, Any weather, any holiday, any season. The cheer of Cookies is always there to be with you!

Love all of you, can't really deny it, even if you're rude, a scrooge, you're still in my heart. Don't feel unloved! I'm always here to be with you.

Dreams do come true! And eventually, I want to be there with you, every step of the way, every path you take, even if things seem impossible right now, power through them! Imagination can bring you so high, and even if they fizzle out, remember you're not alone in your journey.

Apart of the Cookies Family!

Aelyria, Bestelesnia, Yungerdash, Unintra, and 4 othersMaximula, The drisia, Kaliitnuunati, and Denaken comorthere

Kaliitnuunati

Balder cookies wrote:Why Hello Balder! Due to the growing expansion, and my growing love to share Cookies with everyone across the world, I'm here now!

I am here to warm the hearts of the people of Balder!

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Cookies After Dark:

Freshly baked, always the glowing imagination of a sweet treat that can't be beat, anything goes, from flat to all puffed up, soft and chewy to hard and packs a punch to your mouth.

Hot and Cold, Any weather, any holiday, any season. The cheer of Cookies is always there to be with you!

Love all of you, can't really deny it, even if you're rude, a scrooge, you're still in my heart. Don't feel unloved! I'm always here to be with you.

Dreams do come true! And eventually, I want to be there with you, every step of the way, every path you take, even if things seem impossible right now, power through them! Imagination can bring you so high, and even if they fizzle out, remember you're not alone in your journey.

Apart of the Cookies Family!

Thank you :)

Comoros 2022 rp

Get my previously flag and I will go back to Rejected realms!!!!!!!!

Where is Baldest

To those endorsing me, first of all i would like to say thank you for your support, this is the most endorsements i've ever gotten. Unfortunately, i believe that i have reached the limit of endorsement, (or passed it) so i must ask some you to please unendorse me to keep the limit. Thank you.

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