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I'm curious-- does Refugia have an official regional language?

Melenavenia, Floofybit, Ongmonnif, Inversa, and 2 othersTovenia, and Vylixan Gaea

Good morning! I'm happy to announce Refugia's first Information for Voters dispatch. As per the Refugia Revised Statutes, I've collected analysis and feedback and prepared a statement in dispatch form, which is linked below. I fully expect this recommendation to be polarizing and some folks to go against it, but it's here for your viewing pleasure.

Repeal: "International Criminal Protocol"
Information for Voters

Summary

Repeal: "International Criminal Protocol" is an attempt to repeal GAR#500: International Criminal Protocol, hereafter referred to as GAR#500. Before we get to the why, let's briefly run down what GAR#500 does: it established standards of living and treatment for prisoners (or rather, expanded on those from prior legislation), including banning solitary confinement except in specific circumstances and disallowing forced labour, and it set some standards for how capital punishment - the death penalty - can be used. But there's one more line tucked away at the bottom of the resolution: "Reserves to Member-States the right to determine the legality of capital punishment within their jurisdiction."

This is the subject of the repeal at vote. The author, Greater Cesnica, makes the case that the death penalty is inhumane and ineffective, and that in order to eventually outlaw the death penalty, GAR#500 must be repealed and replaced. No issue is taken with the rest of the substance of the original text.

Analysis

So here's the deal: there's exactly one argument here, and it's very straightforward. In the World Assembly, all passed legislation is active, and new proposals can't contradict existing law. That means when a resolution like GAR#500 goes out of its way to say "This is legal," nobody else can come along and attempt to ban it. The author wants to repeal GAR#500 so that there's no barrier to passing a complete ban on capital punishment, which is currently in the works. So most of your position on this one probably depends on your beliefs about the incredibly polarizing issue that is the death penalty. If you're in that camp and you're still here, thanks for stopping by, it's great to have you about.

Beyond that, why might you vote for or against this? It mostly comes down to the laws that are gained or lost. GAR#500 focused partly on capital punishment, but its provisions on solitary confinement and forced labour are valuable. The sections on basic living conditions for prisoners are good too, but I've seen it opined that they're redundant in light of prior human rights legislation; I can't comfortably say whether that's the case. Nevertheless, certain provisions will require a replacement be passed to restore their effect.

And this is a good time to talk about Cesnica's promise in the repeal, "Reassuring member states that a replacement resolution has been drafted to carry on the vital protections GA #500 offered concerning prison conditions." The implication here is that a replacement is ready to go to vote in the event that this repeal passes. But the proposed replacement, which can be found here, is skeletal at best. It borrows its text from GAR#500 almost verbatim, and the few changes present appear to weaken the law rather than strengthen it - its rough definition of inhumane treatment, for instance, or its allowance of forced labour. You should be aware that despite the preamble, a realistic replacement is not waiting in the wings.

Is this a dealbreaker? I don't know. I'm not a fan of the way Cesnica hints at a barely existent replacement. I think it's quite misleading. And repeals can't themselves be repealed, so any misstep is permanently in the record books. That said, if you're a proponent of banning capital punishment, do you really want to wait for someone to draft the exact same thing without that one sentence?

It's also worth noting that some people, specifically foolish Refugi IFV writers, might mistakenly believe GAR#443 also blocks a death penalty ban, and write an entire opinion which hinges on that incorrect assumption. In reality, GAR#443 is subject to past and future WA legislation, so it is possible to instate a ban without first repealing it.

Recommendation

Based on the belief that the death penalty is unjust and should eventually be banned, and with the reassurance that GAR#500's crucial advancements can be replaced - even if the current draft isn't going to cut it - the Refugia Councillor of World Assembly Affairs recommends voting for Repealing: "International Criminal Protocol".

Read dispatch

Sylh Alanor, Indimu, Bellerre, Inversa, and 3 othersTovenia, Nerdy tangent, and Vylixan Gaea

Araine wrote:I'm curious-- does Refugia have an official regional language?

I have also wondered this.

I know regional / continental languages never really take off (Espiranto in Europe springs to mind), but I've always liked the idea of regional languages.

Melenavenia, Middle Barael, Araine, Ongmonnif, and 2 othersInversa, and Vylixan Gaea

Some guy is trying to create Jurassic Park. XD

Laisou, Inversa, and Vylixan Gaea

Hey everyone!

I just wanted to let everybody know that the referendum on opening an embassy with 10000 Islands has concluded! Out of 13 votes, 10 were for, 2 were against, and 1 abstained. I've passed the information along. XKI has a few more steps before they're ready, but we'll be here to accept as soon as they are.

Thanks so much for voting, everybody!

So Atrilia and its self isolationism has forgotten and will likely still forget to join W.A, however does what theey pass still apply to me?

Melenavenia, Laisou, Inversa, and Vylixan Gaea

Atrilia wrote:So Atrilia and its self isolationism has forgotten and will likely still forget to join W.A, however does what theey pass still apply to me?

No, W.A laws only apply to W.A members. As far as I know

Very true. WA laws only affect WA members. You cannot write a proposal that targets non-WA members, which would be unenforceable anyway, and OOC your nation's stats will only be adjusted if you are in the WA at the time the resolution passes.

Nottinghaven, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, and 3 othersLaisou, Ongmonnif, and Inversa

Good evening Refugia ^-^ First of all hai, love you guys, hope you’re all doing well today and everyday. Second of all, I’ve written an RRS amendment :DDD As we didn’t quite reach our goals for Environmental Beauty and Eco-Friendliness, I’ve written some new ones up for the new year, hopefully some goals we can reach!! Here’s the dispatch~


Setting New Environmental Goals for 2021
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Preamble
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The purpose of this referendum is to update environmental goals for the new year as well as to change up some of the wording of RRS 12. The goals have been set to be a challenge but certainly more than possible if everyone chips in.

Enclosed below are the graphs that list current scores in these stats and the history of those scores:

Environmental Beauty:



Eco-Friendliness:




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Draft
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RRS 12:

The Region defines the goals for both its Members and the Region collectively in the following ways:

  • Reach an average Environmental Beauty score of 1,100 on or before December 31, 2021, and maintained thereafter.

  • Reach an average Eco-Friendliness score of 3,200 on or before December 31, 2021, and maintained thereafter.

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Original Text
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RRS 12:

The Region defines the goals and expectations in it Members' conduct and operations in the following ways:

  • Reach an average Environmental Beauty score of 1,900 on or before December 31, 2020, and maintained thereafter.

  • Reach an average Eco-Friendliness score of 5,000 on or before December 31, 2020, and maintained thereafter.

Authored by: Indimu
Seconded by: Lower French Gregballs

Read dispatch


I’m looking for a second so I can put it to vote, and if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask them!! Have a wonderful day friends!! 🌺🌷🌸🌼

Indimu wrote:Good evening Refugia ^-^ First of all hai, love you guys, hope you’re all doing well today and everyday. Second of all, I’ve written an RRS amendment :DDD As we didn’t quite reach our goals for Environmental Beauty and Eco-Friendliness, I’ve written some new ones up for the new year, hopefully some goals we can reach!! Here’s the dispatch~

Setting New Environmental Goals for 2021
.
Preamble
.

The purpose of this referendum is to update environmental goals for the new year as well as to change up some of the wording of RRS 12. The goals have been set to be a challenge but certainly more than possible if everyone chips in.

Enclosed below are the graphs that list current scores in these stats and the history of those scores:

Environmental Beauty:



Eco-Friendliness:




.
Draft
.

RRS 12:

The Region defines the goals for both its Members and the Region collectively in the following ways:

  • Reach an average Environmental Beauty score of 1,100 on or before December 31, 2021, and maintained thereafter.

  • Reach an average Eco-Friendliness score of 3,200 on or before December 31, 2021, and maintained thereafter.

.
Original Text
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RRS 12:

The Region defines the goals and expectations in it Members' conduct and operations in the following ways:

  • Reach an average Environmental Beauty score of 1,900 on or before December 31, 2020, and maintained thereafter.

  • Reach an average Eco-Friendliness score of 5,000 on or before December 31, 2020, and maintained thereafter.

Authored by: Indimu
Seconded by: Lower French Gregballs

Read dispatch


I’m looking for a second so I can put it to vote, and if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask them!! Have a wonderful day friends!! 🌺🌷🌸🌼

What does seconded by mean/do? As I'm new to nationstates, just wondering

Ongmonnif wrote:What does seconded by mean/do? As I'm new to nationstates, just wondering

For RRS amendments, it means another Refugi who likes the amendment can second it, approving it to go to vote :)

Ongmonnif wrote:What does seconded by mean/do? As I'm new to nationstates, just wondering

It's actually from the Refugia Revised Statutes, our government document ^-^

wrote:Proposals must be supported by at least one other Member State, which may be referred to as a "second."

Essentially it's just any proposal requires that one other Member State support it before it can be put to a vote.

Indimu wrote:Good evening Refugia ^-^ First of all hai, love you guys, hope you’re all doing well today and everyday. Second of all, I’ve written an RRS amendment :
[Snip]
if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask them!! Have a wonderful day friends!! 🌺🌷🌸🌼

Isn't the goal a bit too high, especially 3200 for Eco-Friendliness (I couldn't properly read the numbers on the graph for that)?
I believe we should set realistic goals.

Lower French Gregballs wrote:Isn't the goal a bit too high, especially 3200 for Eco-Friendliness (I couldn't properly read the numbers on the graph for that)?
I believe we should set realistic goals.

Those goals are actually quite realistic, in my opinion. We're currently at 2,400 Eco-Friendliness in January, with an all-time high of 5,100.

Sylh Alanor wrote:Those goals are actually quite realistic, in my opinion. We're currently at 2,400 Eco-Friendliness in January, with an all-time high of 5,100.

In that case, I second the RRS amendment proposal: Setting new goals.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-cho, Indimu, and 4 othersLaisou, Ongmonnif, Tovenia, and Vylixan Gaea

Melenavenia wrote:

To the rest of you (Wascoitan in refugia, Vylixan Gaea, and Dyllonia) I think that isn't your main account so I'm not going to bother you with the normal spiel. Have a great time here nonetheless!

Indeed, I switched my Refugia nation from Vylixan Aether to this one, since Vylixan Aether was bad for the region stats.
I'm gonna turn this nation in a green paradise worthy of Refugia!
My main is Vylixan, but I'm better known as Sitethief, or Sitethief of Vylixan.

Indimu wrote:Good evening Refugia ^-^ First of all hai, love you guys, hope you’re all doing well today and everyday. Second of all, I’ve written an RRS amendment :DDD As we didn’t quite reach our goals for Environmental Beauty and Eco-Friendliness, I’ve written some new ones up for the new year, hopefully some goals we can reach!! Here’s the dispatch~

Setting New Environmental Goals for 2021
.
Preamble
.

The purpose of this referendum is to update environmental goals for the new year as well as to change up some of the wording of RRS 12. The goals have been set to be a challenge but certainly more than possible if everyone chips in.

Enclosed below are the graphs that list current scores in these stats and the history of those scores:

Environmental Beauty:



Eco-Friendliness:




.
Draft
.

RRS 12:

The Region defines the goals for both its Members and the Region collectively in the following ways:

  • Reach an average Environmental Beauty score of 1,100 on or before December 31, 2021, and maintained thereafter.

  • Reach an average Eco-Friendliness score of 3,200 on or before December 31, 2021, and maintained thereafter.

.
Original Text
.

RRS 12:

The Region defines the goals and expectations in it Members' conduct and operations in the following ways:

  • Reach an average Environmental Beauty score of 1,900 on or before December 31, 2020, and maintained thereafter.

  • Reach an average Eco-Friendliness score of 5,000 on or before December 31, 2020, and maintained thereafter.

Authored by: Indimu
Seconded by: Lower French Gregballs

Read dispatch


I’m looking for a second so I can put it to vote, and if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask them!! Have a wonderful day friends!! 🌺🌷🌸🌼

Definitely looks doable if we all do our bit. Looks like it has been seconded already so I will just say I'm sure between the great nations of Refugia we can reach these targets.

Vylixan Gaea wrote:Indeed, I switched my Refugia nation from Vylixan Aether to this one, since Vylixan Aether was bad for the region stats.
I'm gonna turn this nation in a green paradise worthy of Refugia!
My main is Vylixan, but I'm better known as Sitethief, or Sitethief of Vylixan.

I probably should’ve done that, but I think I’m gonna stick to the current plan of just trying to fix this nation. I’ve begun working on flipping stats though I don’t really get what happened here. I also changed the flag found here to one with a cute leaf.

I just had the luck that I got to ban cars just now, this dramatically improves both stats.

Lower French Gregballs, Refuge Isle, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, and 3 othersIndimu, Ongmonnif, and Inversa

I just got an amazing issue, that put my eco-friendliness and Environmental beauty up a whole lot!

Notice:

I have received a valid submission for an RRS Referendum on Setting New Environmental Goals for 2021, proposed by Indimu and seconded by Lower French Gregballs.

You can review the proposed changes here.

Toss in a vote today! https://vote.calref.network/

The referendum will conclude in one week's time.

Araine is excited about these new goals-- Our current scores are 950 lbs of wildlife per sq. mile, and 2991 eco-friendliness. These scores put us in the top 10% of the world and top 20% in Refugia.

We're fairly happy with these rankings, but we're determined to grow into a world-class environment-- and boost our civil rights, which seem to have fallen through the roof as of late. Hopefully, we can contribute to Refugia's environmental success in the future! ^-^

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, and 3 othersIndimu, Ongmonnif, and Inversa

Vylixan Gaea wrote:I just had the luck that I got to ban cars just now, this dramatically improves both stats.

i remember that, always fun when you accidentally enact a decision accidentally but its good for half your goals and terrible for the rest

Chacapoya, Lower French Gregballs, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, and 4 othersAraine, Ongmonnif, Inversa, and Refugian new arathi

Vylixan Gaea wrote:I just had the luck that I got to ban cars just now, this dramatically improves both stats.

do planes next

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Junitaki-cho, Ongmonnif, and 1 otherInversa

Chacapoya wrote:do planes next

Instructions unclear, am now banning boats

ヽ(´□`。)ノ

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Free Las Pinas II, and 5 othersJunitaki-cho, Indimu, Laisou, Ongmonnif, and Inversa

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