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Demoness wrote:

Regarding the poll, I think it's unfortunate there is no objective definition of justice. America practices retributive justice, for example, while other nations focus on rehabilitation. When applying that to genocide, there is no true justice. You can arrest and execute people directly responsible for murders, but how do you find justice for the other factors surrounding genocide? People ignore that it happens and fail to intervene. Do you punish them? What about the social or economic factors that contribute?

I suppose what may be needed is "Preventive Justice"? I find it regrettable that the UN is not given greater mandate to prevent genocide around the world. Sadly, the world at present does not have much appetite for international organizations.

Rbbf wrote:

As to the question in the latest poll, the middle ground was created in the USA. Its name is “Reservations.”

I guess I would classify the "Indian Reservations" as more of a stepping stone on the way to genocide. Unless I misunderstood your point and that's what you were getting at...

Interestingly, Adolf Hitler was partially inspired by the US treatment of Native Americans in his own attempt at exterminating the Jews through the use of things like concentration camps.

Brocklandia wrote:

Lois McMaster Bujold, in Brothers in Arms

Correct. You win the bonus points.
Now I need to work out what those points can be used for...

Eldritch Empyrean wrote:

I find it regrettable that the UN is not given greater mandate to prevent genocide around the world.

Give it that right.
Watch various SC members veto intervention in cases where the guilty are their allies.
Watch attempts to arrange intervention in cases that aren't genuinely 'genocide' but where some other nations dislike the "guilty" ones.
It couldn't work without a totally honest & non-political body in charge of the decisions, and in RL that wouldn't be a possibility...

Bearzarro World wrote:

Give it that right.
Watch various SC members veto intervention in cases where the guilty are their allies.
Watch attempts to arrange intervention in cases that aren't genuinely 'genocide' but where some other nations dislike the "guilty" ones.
It couldn't work without a totally honest & non-political body in charge of the decisions, and in RL that wouldn't be a possibility...

Yeah, I agree with you. But I still find the state of affairs to be regrettable...

Of course, rather than going through the lengthy, convoluted process of attempting to assemble a "totally honest and non-political body" to be put in charge, we could instead create a body with zero accountability and an absolute mandate to stop any current or future genocide, then invest in them the full powers of an international police force and justice system. What could go wrong? :P

Bearzarro World wrote:

"All genocides have been caused by humans: Therefore the most effective way to prevent future genocides would be to abolish humans".

(Just call this body placed in charge 'the Sentinels'... or 'Ultron'... or 'Skynet'...)

Yes, that is exactly what I had in mind, hah

You're right, this does seem to be a common trope in sci fi and comics. Perhaps The Borg would like to get involved, as well?

Bearzarro World wrote:

(OOC)

Welcome to the region, Asteroid Belt Communities.

Thanks, a month later!

I don't have internet access from my lodgings, so normally use the public computers at one or another of the local libraries... but the county's libraries have closed as a precaution (from this morning, with no advance warning) during the Coronavirus problem. I'm at an internet cafe now, but can't use that as much as I did the library, and even if I personally remain healthy presumably they will have to shut as well under emergency regulations sooner or later...
I've just put this nation into vacation mode, and logged into my other nations in this region, to extend their existence just in case.
I hope that you, and anybody about whom you care, remain well.

Thanks Defenders! Appreciate the help while our Founder is temporarily CTE.

Eldritch Empyrean wrote:

More visitors! Oh my, where are my manners..? The welcome mat wasn't even lain out.

Our region has certainly become quite popular with the loss of our founder :P

Uh some of those guys are raiders they want to take over your region for themselves
Guy puppets
Sweeze puppets
and Catgirl Division puppets are the ones you need to look for

Harumph! I feel like I'm always cleaning this welcome mat at our front door, due to all of the visitors we are getting these days...nigh constant, I tell you.

*leaves a goodie basket by the door for the good ones*

Bearzarro World wrote:

Us am not back!

Very bad to have you back :P

It was surprisingly active here in your absence.

Eldritch Empyrean wrote:

Here's a collection of concepts for regional banners, derived from "Dune" book covers:

https://imgur.com/a/GlbPHZt

Was pretty fun putting them together and admiring all the various Dune art that is out there :)

I have a folder of saved science fiction cover art from the 70s and 80s, so there's more options other than "Dune"

Thank you, it's good. One suggestion sent to you by TG.

Nice recommendation of Roger Dean album art for regional banners. Here's a selection of ideas:

https://imgur.com/a/GM7Nzrn

Was a lot of fun to explore his artwork, as I wasn't aware of him before.