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Eisenbahnschiff - Part One

Some days later after the launch of Eisenbahnschiff

Eisenbahnschiff cut through the waves of the Amazon Gulf. The crew moved about, maintaining the ship and sails, and being ordered by the captain and officers. They carefully navigated away from the coast, actively searching for any dangers.

“Shipmaster, sir, I believe that we are 10 nautical miles from Concert, shall we stop at the fishing town?” the navigator questioned. The shipmaster hesitated, and proceeded to respond “And how long will that take?” The navigator thought, and thoughtfully replied “I’ll see, sir.”

A barrel rolled down the wooden floor, and smashed into the fence. The fence withstood, and the barrel smashed into pieces. Lucky, it was small and empty, nothing was lost. A large humpback whale followed the ship undetected, before emerging and splashing water into the crew. Most of the crew was disgusted, but some thought it was hilarious. The whale submerged again and left.
“Beautiful creature, that was, sir!” a crew member cried joyfully, “I was absolutely memorised”.

The shipmaster called out for the navigator.
“Have you done the calculations?”
The navigator rushed towards his side, and spoke proudly “As I’ve done the calculations, I believe we shall get their in two hours and twenty minutes precisely, only if we continue at the same speed.” The shipmaster raised his eyebrows and smiled, “Well that’s quicker then expected!” The navigator smirked and continued, “Plus, all that journey will be worth it, as we could document any behaviours of these wild creatures!”
The shipmaster gave out orders to the rest of the crew: If you see any behaviours, write them down.

A merchant vessel could be seen in the distance, with the dazzling sun setting behind it. The light reflected off the blue waters. Darkness enveloped the skies, and the moon could be seen through the trees of the Perchan Forests.

To be continued

Onionist Randosia wrote:In the 1950s, with only short-ranged missiles available (meaning that in order to hit targets out of ICBM range, bombers, which were very much counterable by early surface to air missiles and interceptor aircraft), the US at least thought that a nuclear war would be somewhat survivable.

I know, but I was referring to the modern times.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Why does it need an apology, when Japan, the country who committed more atrocities also has barely ever apologized for it's warcrimes, unnecessary killing and cruel methods of warfare/

Because it is a good, right thing to do. Japan politically looks up to the US, so it will be a good precedent that could be used to push them towards recognizing their own atrocities through moral high-ground stuff.
But, knowing the certain characteristics, as well as the current right-wing nationalist governments, it would only look like another sign of weakness given the current state of the American hegemony...

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:The USA spent more than a billion dollars after the war to help rebuild Japan. If Japan somehow won, they wouldn't have done the same.

If to actually imagine what would the war turn the US into in case of the event if Japan wanted to and really obliterated the US enough for them to become a Japanese puppet/satellite, they would pretty much invest into the US to restore at least half of pre-war levels of productivity. There is little sense in having a paralyzed puppet.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Using the nukes then was fine because there were less nukes to go around and they were used only when it was necessary.

It is only fine as long as the military necessity dictates the need for it. At the time, as I already said, it was the situation for the nukes. Yet still, again, that was too impactful from the historical perspective. A country was literally used as a testing ground for a new kind of WMD.

Now everything is back and running, well but everything but we can post now, please post Roleplay posts here too

Justifying literal fascism is not something I would expect from you, Volksleben
On a different note, I think that people who are like genuinely anti-theist (NOT atheist because atheism isn't explicitly against religion)
I am a christian, and I think when atheists look at christianity, they act like to be a christian you HAVE to hate people who don't follow your religion, but christianity at least to me isn't about excluding people, it's about helping more people, regardless of their sexuality, religion or anything.
I know half of you are going to bombard me saying "me no beleeve in sky daddy becoz me smarter dan u becoz me listen to daddy Vaush" because you are going to approach my statement with bad faith.
Instead of dividing each other, why don't we strive to help each other regardless of what divides us and work together to make the world a better place. I know that many of you out of good faith will tell me that a lot of Christians or any religious people are very exclusionary and really just generally bad people, and you are right. But those christians are not actual christians. Those are just people who strive to hate. Nothing in the bible tells you to actively hate people for any reason. The bible verses against gay people are probably mistranslations which are meant to be against pedophilia, but because of mistranslation turned against gay people but even if it was against gay people that doesn't give any christian a reason to be against them because we aren't the god we believe in, and we all sin so how are we any better than them or anyone.
Tldr: Instead of hating on religion, or hating in the name of religion, why don't we help each other regardless.

Hetaru wrote::)

Howdy.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Justifying literal fascism is not something I would expect from you, Volksleben

Now THAT is a bold claim. I hope you have decent arguments to back it up.

Soviet Federation of Eurasia wrote:Now THAT is a bold claim. I hope you have decent arguments to back it up.

Literally a scarecrow fallacy

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Instead of dividing each other, why don't we strive to help each other regardless of what divides us and work together to make the world a better place.

Unity is a great thing and a great slogan. But what the workers’ cause needs is the unity of Marxists, not unity between Marxists, and opponents and distorters of Marxism.
- V. I. Lenin

Soviet Federation of Eurasia wrote:Now THAT is a bold claim. I hope you have decent arguments to back it up.

He literally defended the fascist regime of JAPAN
Because apparently warcrimes are fine unless it's America.

Volksleben wrote:Unity is a great thing and a great slogan. But what the workers’ cause needs is the unity of Marxists, not unity between Marxists, and opponents and distorters of Marxism.
- V. I. Lenin

And this is why you will probably never convince anyone to join your ideology. You are unable to accept that not everyone is going to be marxist. Even the promotion of unity is against your ideology. So I just suppose we kill or brainwash anyone who doesn't support your ideology. Great work 👏👏

Funnily, literalist Marxists like you are kind of like literalist Christians who just take everything in the bible to be literally true. Your ideology is no more or less flawed than any other ideology.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:He literally defended the fascist regime of JAPAN

Where?

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:And this is why you will probably never convince anyone to join your ideology. You are unable to accept that not everyone is going to be marxist.

One of the biggest and most dangerous mistakes made by Communists ... is the idea that a revolution can be made by revolutionaries alone. On the contrary, to be successful, all serious revolutionary work requires that the idea that revolutionaries are capable of playing the part only of the vanguard of the truly virile and advanced class must be understood and translated into action. A vanguard performs its task as vanguard only when it is able to avoid being isolated from the mass of the people it leads and is able really to lead the whole mass forward. Without an alliance with non-Communists in the most diverse spheres of activity there can be no question of any successful communist construction.
- V. I. Lenin

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Even the promotion of unity is against your ideology.

Any promotion of unity that taints the revolutionary doctrine with reformist and revisionist delirium goes against the interests of the proletarian revolution, and therefore is harmful and highly undesirable. Salus revolutionis suprema lex, nothing more.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:So I just suppose we kill or brainwash anyone who doesn't support your ideology. Great work 👏👏

Only those who resist the revolution.

Volksleben wrote:Where?

One of the biggest and most dangerous mistakes made by Communists ... is the idea that a revolution can be made by revolutionaries alone. On the contrary, to be successful, all serious revolutionary work requires that the idea that revolutionaries are capable of playing the part only of the vanguard of the truly virile and advanced class must be understood and translated into action. A vanguard performs its task as vanguard only when it is able to avoid being isolated from the mass of the people it leads and is able really to lead the whole mass forward. Without an alliance with non-Communists in the most diverse spheres of activity there can be no question of any successful communist construction.
- V. I. Lenin

Any promotion of unity that taints the revolutionary doctrine with reformist and revisionist delirium goes against the interests of the proletarian revolution, and therefore is harmful and highly undesirable. Salus revolutionis suprema lex, nothing more.

Only those who resist the revolution.

1. "Because it is a good, right thing to do. Japan politically looks up to the US, so it will be a good precedent that could be used to push them towards recognizing their own atrocities through moral high-ground stuff.
But, knowing the certain characteristics, as well as the current right-wing nationalist governments, it would only look like another sign of weakness given the current state of the American hegemony...
"
So basically, we should relieve Japan of all of it's warcrimes because if the US does it then they will also do it. Well, guess what?
They have been under the US for a long time now, and still they haven't taken responsibility.
2. Revolution just leads to more death and destruction and turmoil and without really good leaders it just collapses. And at that point no one's gonna fight to reduce their political power and remove their fundamental human rights. If you say that everyone's your enemy, no one is going to be your friend.
3. When someone has a peaceful and a violent option to make change, the peaceful one is better since it allows discourse and pragmatism and the proper melding of ideas into ideologies that work mainly for the good of the people. Picking the violent options just fills people with rage against people who have different ideologies and the different ideologies are completely silenced and no pragmatism will occur and the people will soon realize that sending the country into turmoil. The focus of any ideology should be for the good of the people and the people only. Not for any abstract concept like revolution or money.
4. So basically we should ignore all moral boundaries and just do whatever we want in the name of revolution. Just think for some time. Is it really worth killing fellow human beings because of an ideology? Needs change over time and you can't just say that your ideology will be right forever. But if you kill all people who are against your revolution, no one will ever question it leading to, you guessed it, a dictatorship. We need to recognize the dignity of our fellow human beings before saying such extreme things. Let's take fellow NS users who are fascist, like the Fifth Empire. Fine, they might have some bad opinions. And probably lets say if you made a revolution in the USA they would be against it. Do you think that killing a person, who had families, interests, hobbies, friends, knowledge and a sense of morality like all of us would make you feel good. No matter how evil a person may look, deep down, they're just a human being. And they have the right to life as much as any of us. No matter if they are a Nazi, a Social Democrat, a Libertarian, a conservative or a stoner or anything, they are still human like us. And we shan't judge anyone but ourselves because we don't know the person behind the screen or why they are supporters of these ideologies.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:He literally defended the fascist regime of JAPAN
Because apparently warcrimes are fine unless it's America.

Okay, now you're just a plain hypocrite. You were the one defending nuclear bombings of Japan, in which a LOT of civilians were either killed or suffered long-term health issues due to exposure to rads, and now you've trying to speak from moralist point of view. None of us are trying to excuse Nanjing massacre, but it's not an excuse to say that nuclear bombings are justified.

Richotchet wrote:Hello

Hello, are you new to the game?

Sigh.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:So basically, we should relieve Japan of all of it's warcrimes because if the US does it then they will also do it.

....
Where did I even say this? Re-read my thesis, philistine.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Well, guess what? They have been under the US for a long time now, and still they haven't taken responsibility.

The US could have pressured them into taking responsibility through diplomatic means, just like how the Allied powers pressured Germany.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Revolution just leads to more death and destruction and turmoil

Revolution is literally evil, yadda-yadda-yadda.
You cannot cement any change without revolution. Capitalism didn't crawl in peacefully, it stormed into Europe when the contradictions boiled enough, and it swept through blasting prisons and beheading aristocrats.
Violence is the midwife of every new society. You cannot change this, and stopping midway just to prevent violence will lead to more violence since the contradictions remain untended. The only thing we can do as a species is to keep cleaving our path through, until we are in a society where force and coercion aren't necessary anymore.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:and without really good leaders it just collapses.

Everything collapses without really good leaders.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:And at that point no one's gonna fight to reduce their political power and remove their fundamental human rights.

And this is why revolution is the only way forward. The rights and freedoms can only be conquered by the oppressed and exploited masses.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:If you say that everyone's your enemy, no one is going to be your friend.

Not everyone. Only those who are opposed to the cause of liberation of the workers.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:3. When someone has a peaceful and a violent option to make change, the peaceful one is better

SPD abstained from violating the rights of the capitalists when they received absolute power after the November Revolution in Germany. USPD refused to support arming the workers when the Freikorps tried to coup the social democrats, killing all socialist sympathizers they met on their crusade. One peaceful action after another, the only change that was achieved was preparing all conditions for the rise of Nazism.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:since it allows discourse and pragmatism and the proper melding of ideas into ideologies that work mainly for the good of the people.

Smells like fascism to me. Literally - "melding of ideas"... Hmm, yeah, national-syndicalism of Peron, social-nationalism of Park Chung Hee and Saddam Hussein - that's right, syncretism will pave the road to progress and development!

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Picking the violent options just fills people with rage against people who have different ideologies and the different ideologies are completely silenced and no pragmatism will occur and the people will soon realize that sending the country into turmoil.

Breaking news - communists never won in the countries that were stable enough to provide people with the illusion of peaceful reform.
Every socialist revolution happened in the first place because the people were ALREADY ENRAGED enough they were ready to go against the machine guns with pitchforks. The communists only became the force that guided the revolting people to victory and progress instead of a dull reactionary bloodbath.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:The focus of any ideology should be for the good of the people and the people only. Not for any abstract concept like revolution or money.

"The people" is an abstract concept. Inside every nation, there are two nations - the workers and the capitalists. Their interests always intersect and conflict, making class struggle an inevitable part of the objective reality. Revolution is the concrete act of workers' upheaval against the capitalist rule. That's the ABC of sociology and socialism, pal.
Also, money/profit is pretty a concrete concept as well. Like, can you eat it if you can't afford it?

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:4. So basically we should ignore all moral boundaries and just do whatever we want in the name of revolution.

No. I didn't say that. Firstly, violence is already inherent to our current social order. As long as there is the state, there will be violence. It is the apparatus of monopolized violence, after all.
Secondly. The thing is, the moral boundaries are already dissolving. Didn't you notice the ubiquitous praise of selfishness and greed, no? Maybe you don't see the media efforts towards normalization of organized and industrialized murder known as war?

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Just think for some time. Is it really worth killing fellow human beings because of an ideology?

Take some time, go touch asphalt, and ask a policeman or a soldier this same question. If you are lucky, you will get a negative answer - and in this case, then try saying that you want to change something radically. Like expropriating the property of the capitalists or abolishing the military.
We didn't start this fight. It has been going for ages, since the last tribal shaman was killed by the first landowner.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Needs change over time and you can't just say that your ideology will be right forever.

The general needs stay the same since the humans barely change over thousands of years. Should we only apply scientific management and rational accountment and control, we will get the greatest results. Nothing more - and these goals are pretty objective. Optimization and humanity are timeless concepts.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:But if you kill all people who are against your revolution, no one will ever question it leading to, you guessed it, a dictatorship.

Have you ever read a thorough history of a revolution? Like, any revolution?

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:We need to recognize the dignity of our fellow human beings before saying such extreme things. Let's take fellow NS users who are fascist, like the Fifth Empire. Fine, they might have some bad opinions.

"Bad opinions"?! They literally are fanboys of the ideology that advocates exterminating and/or forcibly relocating into the ocean billions of human beings - under thought-up premises, literally "trust me bro" by Rosenberg! They are not "fellow human beings with bad opinions", they are an existential threat to humankind!

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:And probably lets say if you made a revolution in the USA they would be against it.

One cannot "make" a revolution. Masses do the revolution, and they can be only driven to it by incompetent management of the government.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Do you think that killing a person, who had families, interests, hobbies, friends, knowledge and a sense of morality like all of us would make you feel good.

No.
Again, you seem to forget about a certain petty, insignificant, small thing. Like, we cannot even notice it usually. It is called society. People kill each other for ages, dozens of billions dead - not because we like it. But because the interests intersect, the tensions reach the boiling point, and the violence reigns casually. And people kill for something they think is right because they are ready to die for something they think is right.
We cannot change that, and we cannot deny that. We can only accept that and work with what we have until we make it to a social order where such horror won't have objective reasons for happening.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:No matter how evil a person may look, deep down, they're just a human being. And they have the right to life as much as any of us. No matter if they are a Nazi, a Social Democrat, a Libertarian, a conservative or a stoner or anything, they are still human like us.

I'll look at you when you see fellow human beings who have the right to life executing other fellow human beings who have the right to life. Or when you see the mutilated remains of a fellow human being who had the right to life, murdered by an explosive, dropped by a fellow human being who has the right to life. These machines and tools of death are made by fellow human beings who have the right to life, who are made to do this by a big, fat fellow human being who has the right to life, - because otherwise, they will lose this only accessible decent job - and their fellow little human kids who have the right to life will suffer from hunger. And everything of this is because some clique of fellow human profiteers who have the right to life lobbied their interests in the government, full of highly corrupt fellow human beings who have the right to life.
Your cheap pacifism is highly unimpressive, in short.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:And we shan't judge anyone but ourselves because we don't know the person behind the screen or why they are supporters of these ideologies.

We SHOULD judge everyone, including ourselves, for their opinions and actions.

Again. We cannot just remove violence by closing our eyes, we cannot remove objective contradictions leading to violence in the first place. We can only accept that as the objective social law and work with what we have until we as a species can make it to a social order where such horrific stuff won't have objective reasons for happening.

Richotchet wrote:Hello

Howdy.
Apologies for our quarrels on the Regional Message Board. Feel free to express your opinions here, and feel free to join our Discord server for more activities and possibilities.

New Tyranniaa wrote:Hello, are you new to the game?

Richotchet is sorta new to the game, i control Richotchet with my little brother
:|

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