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Zarbik wrote:Heya

When I’m ready I’ll have a speedy tgm plane go to wooloos to pick everyone up

Zarbik, MLGDogeland, Kingdom Of Englands, and United departments of europe

Gay momble wrote:dO yOu liKe ThAt mR KrAbs!!??!

Mr krabs is pardoned from the Crabocide

The Gold Mines, United departments of europe, and Gay momble

After the war, you return to your home. You are admired as a hero.
Your life continues on, and soon, another war breaks out.

another war broke out, im going to coup my government

Joeanian republic

GROUND VENT HAS STARTED

The Gold Mines, Kingdom Of Englands, and United departments of europe

United departments of europe

MLGDogeland wrote:Mr krabs is pardoned from the Crabocide

Probably cause he's actually more of a lobster.

New Ryansville wrote:After the war, you return to your home. You are admired as a hero.
Your life continues on, and soon, another war breaks out.

another war broke out, im going to coup my government

Make it Anti-Crabist

Kingdom Of Englands and Gay momble

Joeanian republic

WE ARE WITHIN 35 MINUTES FROM LAUNCH

New Ryansville wrote:After the war, you return to your home. You are admired as a hero.
Your life continues on, and soon, another war breaks out.

another war broke out, im going to coup my government

Who you talking to?

The Gold Mines wrote:When I’m ready I’ll have a speedy tgm plane go to wooloos to pick everyone up

Ah sweet

Those speedy t8 planes are fun

Joeanian republic

Lobsters aren't crabs they deserve to live

MLGDogeland wrote:Make it Anti-Crabist

i will

Yazakhastan wrote:Who you talking to?

ai dungeon

MLGDogeland, Kingdom Of Englands, and Yazakhastan

Zarbik wrote:Ah sweet

Those speedy t8 planes are fun

They can go to places in seconds

Cormoe wrote:Remember, Germany Style flag but Dark Blue on top, white middle, and black on the bottom

anything else?

Joeanian republic wrote:Lobsters aren't crabs they deserve to live

idk we're going to have to ask Melons

Joeanian republic wrote:Lobsters aren't crabs they deserve to live

Of course, they arent crabs

The Gold Mines, Kingdom Of Englands, and Joeanian republic

Monarche wrote:

I will be as clear as possible. I do not think starships are immobile, I do think, however, lower SA permits less maneuverability.

Any weapon battery, in this case and AA battery, is mounted on a rotary platform with 360 degree turn radius, and can move the muzzle up and down to a max of 120 degrees. This is not the most effective AA method when it comes to missiles, the idea of a pulse weapon was used in Providence by Max Barry. With our own modifications we can make this weapon RP acceptable. A pulse, sends out a wave of energy(not specified, I can figure that out later) that moves out in a general direction that can take out all small objects it touches, it requires some time to charge because it needs to build up compression for the wave to take its size and speed.

On the matter of shielding, electromagnetic fields are very popular, but they absorb next to nothing laser or live ammo. Some shielding systems activate in only areas taking damage, its less costly energy wise, and will absorb more damage, but bulky and awkward. Which brings me to the two most viable shielding systems. Black globes and White Globes, white globes are too OP so I will skip them. Black globes are a form of shield that alters gravity around the ship, and stops all matter from passing through, the drawback is it works both ways, the people inside cannot see out, communicate outside of it, or fire outside of it, so it must be deactivated to return fire, talk, use scanners, and see. White globes don’t have that problem, so they are too god mode.

Finally, despite the relation between space and maritime laws, space is vastly different and the classifications of ships is barely applicable to starships. Space operates on three and sometimes four dimensions, generally weapons only fire laterally on sea, and there is a predetermined up and down. As I'm sure you know, these rules do not apply to space, when you have enough scientific advancement to alter the rules of physics, and travel at FTL speeds, the least of your worries is a nuke, the weapon advancement cannot be compared to physics and technology we know today, or even what we think it might be in 200 years. Nuclear weapons can be countered even today irl, it won’t be a problem at all in the future. Weight isn’t a problem in space, your armor can be as thick as you want, which means you need bigger thrusters, which results in needing a bigger ship.

Put simply, a corvette cannot outgun a cruiser, the cruiser will always have more fuel, life support, weapons, and armor than the corvette. The corvette has less surface area for weapons, lowering its fire output. It will be shooting at something with more surface area, meaning it will have to hit it more to cripple it, and it will fire less than the cruiser, the cruiser will have an extreme advantage in firepower and will chew through the smaller ship much faster. Lets use this analogy, you have a pistol, and 10 ft in front of you is a target 10 inches in diameter, you can shoot that target very easily, not you are 10ft away from a target with a 2 inch diameter, still easy to hit, because you are ten feet away, you will be able to put more bullets in the big target than the little one, which is destroyed faster? Before you say “smaller is harder to hit” remember your argument about heat seeking missiles, and how much heat radiation comes from a starship, aiming won’t ever be a problem.

The star ships you are trying to sell me as viable will most definitely be immobile from a relative perspective. You're trying to create an infinite scenario in which the larger the ship, the better its armor, the stronger the thrusters need to be. There are two issues with this argument. Firstly, larger vessels no matter how fast will be less maneurverable than smaller vessels, and as I will state later on, they will take damage much, much easier, and will take heavy damage no matter what. Secondly, thruster technology will have its limits, your argument relies on this infinite series in which a continuous onslaught of newer, stronger thruster technology will ensure the continued viability of massive star ships.

I rescind my argument regarding the AAs turning 360 degrees. That was a misworded statement on my part, as I had only taken into account the three dimensions while failing to account for the fact that 360 degrees is a two-dimensional issue. I wanted to emphasize however, that a laser system for AA would still not work for the reasons stated above. A missile will hit, and a ton of missile will definitely hit too. Large starships are not viable.

On the subject of black and white globes, these are technology present on the FWO. Please note that the maximum technological threshold is 700 SA, and the tech displayed on the SA chart is a good guidance of what tech is reasonable at this point. So yes, there is no viable method to defend against a concentrated laser beam, especially if your crossfire is that massive.

Your third point completely misses the point. I am not disregarding the fact that space warfare has an added dimension to it, I am simply stating that weapons that hit will cause damage. Therefore, one would opt to reduce the chances that they would take damage more than anything else. Yes we have FTL technology, but FTL is used for travel alone. Space warfare should not be conducted while both ships are engaged in FTL travel, that most likely lead to disaster. Your final statement also creates a neverending "tanking" scenario, easily countered by previously mentioned laser systems.

Your comparison of a cruiser and a corvette would not be an applicable argument for military effectivity, as a corvette would surely not attempt to combat a cruiser alone. In fact, a cruiser's role is also very different from a corvette. But let's presume this argument is valid. A corvette will lose perhaps in terms of their supposed "HP bar", but in terms of firepower it is ultimately the same. A corvette and a cruiser, both facing each other starboard, directly firing into each other, will cripple both. Yes by percentage the corvette will take more damage, but both would be damaged beyond repair. A modern day ship cannot withstand direct, clean hits from modern day weaponry. Do not treat a larger surface area as if it were an HP bar, this is not how vessels work.

Lastly, you also misuse my last argument. I argued that your starships, which you envision as being gigantic, would emit massive heat and would therefore be guaranteed hits. Smaller ships would emit much less heat, and would be easier to divert away from projectiles.

Zarbik, Kingdom Of Englands, United departments of europe, Yazakhastan, and 1 otherBoris Cult

United departments of europe

Untecna, Jude s, Cormoe

WKRP DEBATE QUESTION 1
What is your stance on the case of recruiting new members to IWK? Should we as a region put more effort into looking for more members, and if yes, what is your plan for doing it?

The Gold Mines wrote:They can go to places in seconds

Yeh there heckin cool

> You coup your government.
After the war is over, you make your move. You take the entirety of the military, and you move against your government.

> You demand to be made Leader or you will kill the government.
The military obeys to ensure their next live, and you quickly take power.
You rule as Dictator for two years, rebuilding the country into what it should be, an Empire.

oh no im too brave for poltics

United departments of europe wrote:Probably cause he's actually more of a lobster.

I like to imagine this as a YouTube thumbnail reading
Mr Krabs Exposed!

MLGDogeland, Kingdom Of Englands, and United departments of europe

Well Monarche just freaking left. Which means he might not even be interested in continuing the small ship/big ship debate once he's back. This sucks.

Zarbik, North American Imperial State, Kingdom Of Englands, United departments of europe, and 1 otherYazakhastan

Anyone want to rp?

Kingdom Of Englands and Yazakhastan

Isle of epic wrote:anything else?

Uhh maybe a soldier hat

Hey JR, would any of your airlines like to buy my nuclear powered planes?

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