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The Adrestian Empire and Linhardt
This is true, although I believe that Ferdinand and Dorothea both have very strong motivations to support Edelgard, The Noble State of Aegir put it well in his previous post. perhaps stronger than someone such as Petra or Caspar who are not necessarily as personally invested to the Empire's success.
The Noble State of Aegir and Linhardt
I'm not gonna respond to the rest of your points in the interest of not having a dozens-long message chain on this specific topic, and in general almost all of our disagreements on this subject come from differing personal interest in specific characters and principles. Still, thanks for discussing it with me! :)
I don't really understand how the disagreement can boil down to different personal interests in specific characters. Whether Ferdinand or Dorothea are necessarily in the right or my personal opinion on their ideas isn't relevant, only that their motivations to stick with Edelgard are sound, logical, and substantiated in-game, which I'm confident that I've established pretty well. If you have any reasons to believe otherwise or see my assertions as inadequate in some way, I would love to hear your ideas.
...which is your opinion. Whether something is well-substantiated is a wholly subjective question. I'd also like to add that I'm still playing the other routes of the game and fully understanding Fódlan and its characters. Further:
As for what you had to say on Ferdinand: maybe I missed it, but it definitely didn't seem like Edelgard was in favor of retaining the nobility at all. After the war she allows, say, Caspar to be the new war minister despite his lack of inheritance to that position. Perhaps the game is just vague enough that either result could be interpreted from it. She certainly doesn't turn Adrestia into a democracy, seeing as democracy isn't really something that is thought of in that time era of Fódlan, but I don't understand how she could lead a meritocratic, egalitarian Empire if she did not abolish the system of nobility. I'll pay more attention to stuff like this during my new game plus CF playthrough.
Finally I want to say that I wholly agree that there are practically no bad characters. I may be criticizing all of them, but I even warmed up to Ferdinand and Hubert, which were my least favorite Black Eagles, because they all have convincing motivations to believe what they believe. My only issue with all of them is their tendency to fall into tropes, which is especially present in the Black Eagles.
Of course.
Depressed? I suppose I never saw Dorothea as "depressed" when compared with some of the other characters. I essentially understand your desire to hear more about her conflicting opinions on the war, but I personally can't expect too much more than they provided, considering that aspect of her character only emerges after the war begins and most of her A supports should be focused on concluding the arcs of their respected support series. Many of her A supports touch upon this change in mentality and how it impacts her perspective on other characters and issues, which is great, but I'm not expecting an in-depth discussion of her mentality on that when there are so many other interesting dynamics to deal with. I think her post-timeskip monastery dialogue does a solid job of addressing this on its own, supplemented by the bits in-support.
The matter isn't that Edelgard doesn't want to abolish the nobility, but that taking and maintaining control of a feudal state like the Adrestian Empire naturally necessitates the loyalty of enough of the upper classes. She certainly doesn't execute as dramatic a "purge" as she might ideally like, but without the proven loyalty of the general population, many of which still associate with their lords as was customary in feudal society, how could she get anything done. It is a matter of political necessity that she retains Bergliez's and Hevring's loyalty, and if Ferdinand can successfully make personal inroads with her as a close and loyal advisor, perhaps he could ensure that the nobility retains some of its past honor, if only in a titular or vestigial form? Regardless if Edelgard intends to abolish the nobility in its entirety or not, the other reasons I mentioned still apply, let alone the fact that Ferdinand does not necessarily need a government sanction to continue to represent House Aegir, his ancestry and prestige alone can grant him and his descendants his noble pride.
I've played all 4 routes, and of the routes, Black Eagles is my least favorite. I'm not sure if that is because I did Black Eagles last, or if it is because it is my least played route. But I just enjoy the Golden Deer and Blue Lions better.
You mean CF I presume? Even though it was my first, I think SS is by far the worst
Post by Marriane best girl suppressed by The Noble State of Aegir.
Both CF and SS were done after I completed at least one run of VW and AM. It doesn't help that I ragequit on CF endgame because of all that damn fire chipping everyone to death. Just the idea of all the wasted potential for both SS and CF doesn't help any either.
Understandable.
I'm assuming you suppressed my comment to avoid possible spoilers for people who have yet to reach CF endgame?
Yeah, as stipulated in the regional rules.
Yes, please use [ spoiler ] tags to conceal post-timeskip information on the Regional Message Boards. I am a bit disappointed you think CF is the worst,
The Noble State of Aegir, The Adrestian Empire, and Marriane best girl
Any good ideas for polls to get our fine region to some activity? (The Noble State of Aegir)
Okay. I've got one. Everybody vote!
Thank you. And yes, please vote!
Figured I might as well move a puppet here. I wanted to vote in the poll. Y'all need a proper Adrestia in this place. I think the boy's poll will be a contentious one. Ferdinand and Caspar feel like obvious choices, but Linhardt could pull one. Maybe Hubert will shock us all.
Where exactly is this poll?
Indeed. Welcome, Adrestian comrade, to our fine region.
I presume it is based on your personal opinion, not necessarily any specific attribute, such as combat effectiveness like our previous polls.
Edelgard would be bar none the best Black Eagle fighter...if only she moved more than five feet. She hits like a train, but the train is a steam train...off its rails...underwater...in the snow...on ice...while somehow tunnelling through solid rock. Petra wins for combat. Edelgard is the best in every other way though.
It's above RMB on the regions main page.
Good question. I suspect Linhardt will perform well.
Also, apologies for forgetting to open the poll to non region members.
Poor Bernie... Somebody give some love to Bernie. It's a three-way tie to just embarrass Bernie.
This result so far really just screams Bernie. She'd have something to say about it.
Indeed. House leaders develop easily and hit hard, and considering how Petra can have difficulty taking damage (especially if she is improperly trained, I would argue that Edelgard is the best unit of the Black Eagles, not to mention character.
No offense meant to Petra Macneary of course, you are still an excellent, albeit quite different unit with more versatility in weapons than our emperor. Looking at our poll, I'm wondering where all the Bernadetta fans are... I know the poll is closed to nations outside of the region and that she is a generally divisive character, but I would at least expect a bit of representation. Well, come on over and represent, Bernadetta fans.