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I’m down either way.

maybe each season of it, we pick a nation to host. if we want to do only 1 leg per team then I think this would make alot of sense. Also would cut down on international travel lol

The Selkie and Lillorainen

Once we work out the bugs, maybe we could do something like the Champions League with club teams?

The Selkie, Ru-, and Lillorainen

if we're all interested in doing domestic leagues then that's not a bad idea either! (it'd be a little tough for me cause my clubs' team sizes are smaller tho lol.)

Lillorainen

I’m thinking about doing a sort of low-intensity military RP soon. Something in some of the outer islands of my NPC nation. Maybe have Avisronia start boarding and searching maritime traffic or something?

The Selkie and Lillorainen

Wrote an international roster for the thing. Still need to decide on ages. I also realized that Ru has a problem of it's top 2 domestic league players being foreigners lol.

The Selkie and Lillorainen

Ru- wrote:Wrote an international roster for the thing. Still need to decide on ages. I also realized that Ru has a problem of it's top 2 domestic league players being foreigners lol.

Well, things are taking shape already quite nicely!
So far, we have the national football teams of:

    - Ru.
    - Avisronia.
    - Lillorainen.
    - The Free Lands.

All four of which are mains. Will we take NPCs into it as well?

Avisronia wrote:I’m thinking about doing a sort of low-intensity military RP soon. Something in some of the outer islands of my NPC nation. Maybe have Avisronia start boarding and searching maritime traffic or something?

A continuation of the Anti-Piracy Operations, maybe, closed to the region?

Lillorainen

I'd like to add my personal NPCs, or however many are allowed to participate (I suppose that means I have to think up 8 more rosters then lol)

The Selkie and Lillorainen

I'm gonna make up a roster too - I was gonna write about the Lillorainian Federal League anyways. Maybe I'll also think up another one, if we bring Stella Dorata in - which would surely be fun, considering how much of a derby it would be. It would even be more fun than one might think, if you consider that the RSD formally doesn't recognize the FL as a nation - just think about a Serbia vs. Kosovo match. ;)

That both sounds wonderful, people!
I'll have to write up something, too, mainly a league, as I already have a roster for the Foireann, even kits.

As for personal NPCs and our playgrounds... why not? Bring them all in, as long as it doesn't get too large. My intended size for this SEA-League was around ten to twelve teams and we somehow have to fill those slots! ; )
That would of course mean, that Lutetii is with the roster as well.

Lillorainen

The Selkie wrote:That both sounds wonderful, people!
I'll have to write up something, too, mainly a league, as I already have a roster for the Foireann, even kits.

As for personal NPCs and our playgrounds... why not? Bring them all in, as long as it doesn't get too large. My intended size for this SEA-League was around ten to twelve teams and we somehow have to fill those slots! ; )
That would of course mean, that Lutetii is with the roster as well.

I'm working at setting everything up. May take some time, though - that being said, any delays and everything I mess up may be blamed on Lady S. from L. in the region of R. annoying me in voice chat while I'm trying to get something done. ;)

The Selkie wrote:That both sounds wonderful, people!
I'll have to write up something, too, mainly a league, as I already have a roster for the Foireann, even kits.

As for personal NPCs and our playgrounds... why not? Bring them all in, as long as it doesn't get too large. My intended size for this SEA-League was around ten to twelve teams and we somehow have to fill those slots! ; )
That would of course mean, that Lutetii is with the roster as well.

is your team's info posted somewhere? checked the factbook and didn't see anything..

for now i guess i'll work on my domestic league, but i'll get on doing the NPC rosters eventually lol

The Selkie and Lillorainen

Ru- wrote:is your team's info posted somewhere? checked the factbook and didn't see anything..

for now i guess i'll work on my domestic league, but i'll get on doing the NPC rosters eventually lol

No, they don't have a factbook, just an old forum-post because I'm quickly running out of space in my factbooks (need to reorganize that anyway): viewtopic.php?p=32201882#p32201882

Lillorainen

Ah, I see. Thanks for the link!

Ru- wrote:Ah, I see. Thanks for the link!

No problem. I have to add, that I'm going to replace the images sometime soon, but the kits will stay the same.

Lillorainen wrote:I'm working at setting everything up. May take some time, though - that being said, any delays and everything I mess up may be blamed on Lady S. from L. in the region of R. annoying me in voice chat while I'm trying to get something done. ;)

Excerpt from my very long to-do list ... ^^
Annoying that voice chat lassie back - check.
Setting the Lillo national team up - check.

Hey guys,

Just a geopolitical idea here, that I wanted to run by everyone for a potential future RP. A lot of times on NS, everyone has a supply of everything. Everyone has an island nation that has an ample supply of farmland, oil, minerals, etc. I know I’ve been guilty of it at least once.

What I’ve been trying to do is quantify what the Commonwealth has and doesn’t have. I’ve arrived at small supplies of most minerals, with larger supplies of some rare earths. Most energy is nuclear or renewable (Selks can vouch for my fascination with nuclear. My whole Navy is nuclear). Because of that, we have a distinct lack of oil production. We tend to import cheap oil to make more advanced synthetic products. The majority of our exports are high end manufacturing or agribusiness.

With that said, what I wanted to ask everyone is this: I’ve been playing with the idea of positioning my country on a sort of “great northern passage.” Sort of like the RL northwest passage. That opens up this whole line of thought where Avisronia could claim it as an internal waterway and vow to keep it open for all, but then gradually increase fees and taxes because we shoulder all the cost for keeping it open and safe and providing security.

The idea is that by using it, your merchants would save a ton of distance both on going to Avisronia’s west coast and other nearby nations. I don’t want it to be a like, total chokepoint where I coulda starve your nation into submission without it, but rather just important enough that it would cost you a ton if it were closed.

Does anyone have any problems with this? I’m just trying to establish our world for future RP.

The Selkie and Lillorainen

Avisronia wrote:Hey guys,

Just a geopolitical idea here, that I wanted to run by everyone for a potential future RP. A lot of times on NS, everyone has a supply of everything. Everyone has an island nation that has an ample supply of farmland, oil, minerals, etc. I know I’ve been guilty of it at least once.

What I’ve been trying to do is quantify what the Commonwealth has and doesn’t have. I’ve arrived at small supplies of most minerals, with larger supplies of some rare earths. Most energy is nuclear or renewable (Selks can vouch for my fascination with nuclear. My whole Navy is nuclear). Because of that, we have a distinct lack of oil production. We tend to import cheap oil to make more advanced synthetic products. The majority of our exports are high end manufacturing or agribusiness.

With that said, what I wanted to ask everyone is this: I’ve been playing with the idea of positioning my country on a sort of “great northern passage.” Sort of like the RL northwest passage. That opens up this whole line of thought where Avisronia could claim it as an internal waterway and vow to keep it open for all, but then gradually increase fees and taxes because we shoulder all the cost for keeping it open and safe and providing security.

The idea is that by using it, your merchants would save a ton of distance both on going to Avisronia’s west coast and other nearby nations. I don’t want it to be a like, total chokepoint where I coulda starve your nation into submission without it, but rather just important enough that it would cost you a ton if it were closed.

Does anyone have any problems with this? I’m just trying to establish our world for future RP.

Guilty as (not directly) charged ;)

The FL indeed is located on an archipelago that's rich at minerals. Oil supplies, well, offshore platforms sort it out. ^^ But of course, to keep this whole thingy realistic, I presume that we don't have unlimited oil access and someday will run out of it. That would be the point, where Lillorainen either will have managed to switch to 100% renewable energy sources, or will be dependent on imports.

Also, naturally, Lillorainen is quite a self-sufficient nation - which it needed to become when we suddenly discovered our population is skyrocketing and therefore driving us into a need of space without being too dependent on foreign imports. Which, again, required a model of efficiency that won't (on a short-term basis, at least) cease to work if, to put it into a hyperbolic way, the world economy collapses. We're prepared for this to happen. However, foreign trade quite is important for us and our economy, too - thus, we would surely be interested in keeping such a passage as you mention it open and safe.

With that said, I've always imagined most nations I'm interacting with somewhat in the west or northwest of my own (of course, more distant than the RSD). Might be that "Asia thing" I've mentioned before ... although, as I said, some things have changed and also still will.

Quantifying what's there and what's not is generally not a bad plan. I'm trying to do this, too. Somehow ... it's quite near the bottom of my to-do list, though (again, guilty ^^).

The Selkie and Avisronia

Right, and that’s realistic. I think NS is generally just a more mercantilist sort of world, so most people strive for self sufficiency.

And that’s where the Commonwealth is. We have oil. And coal. And iron. That’s not the problem. It’s the relative cost of extracting it. In any sort of modern war, it’s unlikely that full scale industrial mobilization would ever be reached. But... if it was, we’d have the materials.

It’s just that, on any given Friday, car companies in Avisronia are going to order steel from overseas. The fuel most people buy at the pumps? Most of it is foreign. That’s why the Commonwealth would be a leader in electric vehicle engineering.

But if we absolutely needed it, we’ve got it. It’s just expensive to get to.

Do you think your country would Have any major exports?

The Selkie, Ru-, and Lillorainen

Ru is a major agicultural exporter. That's our biggest by far. Airplane and ship parts, automotive parts, and cars are next. We have some oil and fuel as well.

The Selkie and Lillorainen

The Free Lands are a major arms manufacturer and exporter, with a strong shipbuilding industry as well. The steel isn't a problem either, the Free Lands have enough iron and electric arc furnaces to produce a lot. Where it get hairy are rare earths and a lot of industrial products, like matresses and computers (two often quoted examples). In agricultural products, the Free Lands are self-sufficient and maybe import spices and a few other things from abroad (like silk, for example from Ru ; )).
As for rare earths, there are deposits suspected to be under the Great Woods and under the Northern Islands, but the Selkie are unwilling to make a dash for them. Oil... of what little is needed, one half is unearthed in the Free Lands, the other imported.
Did I miss anything?

As for the Avisronian Northwest Passage, I would say, that vessels of the MGoL use it quite frequently and that it would be an interesting idea there. What about fishing rights, though?

Avisronia and Lillorainen

Well, with it being claimed as an Avisronian sovereign waterway, Avisronia would consider the fishing... Avisronian. With that said, the Commonwealth believes in free markets enough that it would likely be open to anyone who paid a fee for it, that fee of course going to cover the communications and search and rescue assets in the area.

I could see that being a point of contention as well. Perhaps in a future RP it comes to light that there’s a lot of fishing that’s not authorized and those who do actually pay their dues wonder why they’re paying if no one else is, and the Commonwealth debates why it’s even providing SAR capability?

The Selkie and Lillorainen

Arms manufacturing and shipbuilding are some of Lillorainen's strong points, too - also, the FL has a strong retail industry and an IT sector. We also export some sorts of food and beverages. There is also a large agricultural sector, but most of it is rather adjusted to serving the domestic market - again, to stay self-sufficient. Rare earths mostly need to be imported, though, but deposits exist.
Precious metals are a thing, too - yet, while we've had a certain history of trading them, they are nowadays rather kept as a reserve to stabilize our currency. Too much of these got washed up at certain beaches in the past ... ;)

What we have a clear lack on are things like certain types of wood (e.g. tropical wood) and other plants you can't get in medium climate zone. And, of course, decent whiskey the average Lillo can afford. ;)

A minor conflict on fishing rights would surely be a nice thing to use in a roleplay. Losing those wouldn't kill Lillorainen's trout fishing sector, but definitely limit it a lot. ^^

Lillorainen wrote:Arms manufacturing and shipbuilding are some of Lillorainen's strong points, too - also, the FL has a strong retail industry and an IT sector. We also export some sorts of food and beverages. There is also a large agricultural sector, but most of it is rather adjusted to serving the domestic market - again, to stay self-sufficient. Rare earths mostly need to be imported, though, but deposits exist.
Precious metals are a thing, too - yet, while we've had a certain history of trading them, they are nowadays rather kept as a reserve to stabilize our currency. Too much of these got washed up at certain beaches in the past ... ;)

What we have a clear lack on are things like certain types of wood (e.g. tropical wood) and other plants you can't get in medium climate zone. And, of course, decent whiskey the average Lillo can afford. ;)

A minor conflict on fishing rights would surely be a nice thing to use in a roleplay. Losing those wouldn't kill Lillorainen's trout fishing sector, but definitely limit it a lot. ^^

I don't know, which beaches you mean - I absolutely have no idea! Can you point me to them? ; )

Anyway, fun aside, maybe Lillorainen could have a nice share in the Free Lands' home computer market, but I have to ask: When you say "Arms manufacturing and shipbuilding are some of Lillorainen's strong points" as well, what sorts of products do you mean? Small arms, vehicles, ships, aircraft? It might be interesting to have a rivalry (be it friendly or not is to be decided) between my companies in that sector and yours.

I'm already seeing, that we can all feed our own populations, but a trade matrix is going to be interesting to make.

Lillorainen

The Selkie wrote:I don't know, which beaches you mean - I absolutely have no idea! Can you point me to them? ; )

Anyway, fun aside, maybe Lillorainen could have a nice share in the Free Lands' home computer market, but I have to ask: When you say "Arms manufacturing and shipbuilding are some of Lillorainen's strong points" as well, what sorts of products do you mean? Small arms, vehicles, ships, aircraft? It might be interesting to have a rivalry (be it friendly or not is to be decided) between my companies in that sector and yours.

I'm already seeing, that we can all feed our own populations, but a trade matrix is going to be interesting to make.

Which beaches? Hm, a look out of your window should sort it out ... ;)

Let's say, we bought your Corrán-class vessels for a reason ^^ The FL is more focussed on ridiculously big ferries, trade ships, and military vessels (everything above a Heavy Destroyer). Motorized land vehicles cover up the whole range, from a crossbike to a tank. So does the Arms manufacturing sector, producing small pistols and Sturmgewehre and everything in between. And even RPGs. The lax gun laws of the FL (which 'gun laws' btw?) ensure that the Lillo market will never run out of demand. ;)
Most common IT devices are computers, smartphones, tablets ... anything you can imagine.

So yes, there are certain overlaps between our ranges of products, open for some competition.

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