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Karktopials reborn wrote:-snip-

First of all, if you or anyone wants to post on the RMB here, follow the rules which you can see here, RMB Code of Conduct.

Second of all, what in the wide world made you think that posting that was okay in the first place? Don't be a creep, here, there, or anywhere.

Requelizza, Korsinia, Andusre, Xernon, and 8 othersIndian genius, Brototh, Broustan, Primo order, Bannersville, Sevae, Rhyssuan peoples, and Nova anglicum

Taungu wrote:First of all, if you or anyone wants to post on the RMB here, follow the rules which you can see here, RMB Code of Conduct.

Second of all, what in the wide world made you think that posting that was okay in the first place? Don't be a creep, here, there, or anywhere.

fine.
i broke the rules once again.

Indian genius

Taungu wrote:First of all, if you or anyone wants to post on the RMB here, follow the rules which you can see here, RMB Code of Conduct.

Second of all, what in the wide world made you think that posting that was okay in the first place? Don't be a creep, here, there, or anywhere.

Chadly stuff from Taungu <3

Taungu, Korsinia, Indian genius, Brototh, and 8 othersEmazia, The Islamic Country of Honour, Gallo republic, Trist paradise, Primo order, Bannersville, Rivogna, and Rhyssuan peoples

Adele is the best artist alive. Fite me if u think otherwise :P

Taungu, Korsinia, Andusre, and Indian genius

Xernon wrote:Adele is the best artist alive. Fite me if u think otherwise :P

Taylor Swift is the best <3

Korsinia, Andusre, Xernon, and Indian genius

Bob Dylan is the best smh

Though if he were alive I'd name Freddie Mercury

Andusre, Xernon, Indian genius, and Bahnhof

Benjamin Ingrosso is kinda hot

Xernon, Indian genius, and Bahnhof

Rhyssuan peoples

Y'all forget Elton John is still alive smh

Xernon, Indian genius, and Primo order

Rhyssuan peoples wrote:Y'all forget Elton John is still alive smh

Okay that is a worthy opponent :p

Indian genius, Primo order, and Rhyssuan peoples

I even had some military puppets: Tea loves taylor swift 1

Indian genius

Suppressed posts that quote the inappropriate content. Please snip in the future.

Indian genius, The Islamic Country of Honour, Trist paradise, and Primo order

Really guys, what has this RMB become? Normal discussion is fine and I really don’t mind it, but logging on just to find random messages that have no substance and that frankly break the rules here is really annoying and takes away from the culture here. I commend our government from acting on the matter, and I urge people to think before they post on the RMB, and make it a place of calm, occasionally political discussion, not random, unnecessary and inappropriate discussion, that alienates our citizens. Please think twice before you post.

Taungu, Korsinia, Andusre, Indian genius, and 5 othersBrototh, The Islamic Country of Honour, Nova anglicum, Armentieux, and El eems islands

El eems islands

Pap sculgief wrote:Really guys, what has this RMB become? Normal discussion is fine and I really don’t mind it, but logging on just to find random messages that have no substance and that frankly break the rules here is really annoying and takes away from the culture here. I commend our government from acting on the matter, and I urge people to think before they post on the RMB, and make it a place of calm, occasionally political discussion, not random, unnecessary and inappropriate discussion, that alienates our citizens. Please think twice before you post.

As a congressperson, I can promise that recruitment telegrams will include the RMB Code of Conduct so that people coming to the region can know our rules before posting.

Indian genius and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Trist paradise

Xernon wrote:Adele is the best artist alive. Fite me if u think otherwise :P

I'm sorry to tell you but you're wrong there. First there's Korsinia and then at the second place maybe I shall dare to put Joe Hisaishi because even tho the others were all great artists, none brought up my childhood as he did.

Korsinia, Xernon, and Indian genius

Straw hats pirates

Am bacc and ready to attac

Indian genius

El eems islands wrote:As a congressperson, I can promise that recruitment telegrams will include the RMB Code of Conduct so that people coming to the region can know our rules before posting.

It’s understandable, however there are more efficient ways of doing so, through simple explanations to new arrivals (who actually reside in the region, there’s no point sending our rules to those who aren’t members). I think that it’s not that hard to get a grasp of the rules, and we just need to all be a bit more conscious of what we post, legal or not

Indian genius and Armentieux

Trist paradise wrote:I'm sorry to tell you but you're wrong there. First there's Korsinia and then at the second place maybe I shall dare to put Joe Hisaishi because even tho the others were all great artists, none brought up my childhood as he did.

Oof, how did I forget -- my bb Korsinia is the best artist ever, hands down. Sorry Adele.

Korsinia, Pap sculgief, and Indian genius

Trist paradise wrote:I'm sorry to tell you but you're wrong there. First there's Korsinia and then at the second place maybe I shall dare to put Joe Hisaishi because even tho the others were all great artists, none brought up my childhood as he did.

Xernon wrote:Oof, how did I forget -- my bb Korsinia is the best artist ever, hands down. Sorry Adele.

Looks like someone earned backstage passes 😳

Xernon, Indian genius, and Trist paradise

Ok guys, a thought on something which came to my mind,

When the issue of better communication between the House and the Senate came to the fore, along with many others, I had suggested the formation of a combined server where the House and the Senate can communicate with each other in times of need, but it's important at the same time 90% of the debates take place on the House RMB, because of these reasons: Even though the Discord Server has a significant number of members, not all of them is in the Server, and some of them don't have Discord, and having debates on the RMB also gives everyone, including those who do not have Discord, the chancer to view the debates and when citizens are evaluating their votes for the next elections, they could simply go to the House or the Senate RMB to see how the performance of each MP has been, while the Discord server is going to be rarely noticed by non-legislator citizens. I understand Discord is easier for communications and if I were in the legislator's shoes, I would have done the same and communicated mostly over Discord. But I feel the Congress server shouldn't replace the House RMB debate floor and must note, though it hasn't happened yet, it is well a precaution for the future MPs as well. At a time, when most of the works are arguably on Discord, we also should take into consideration there are still some citizens, who are eager to participate in the region but don't have Discord at the same time, so considering them, we shouldn't downgrade the role of our on-site RMB role any further.

This came to my mind after I was seeing a House debate on the Server(with this, kudos to the server creators for the transparency), where a legislator suggested something about not allowing Ministers to become Speaker/Chairman. In my mind, it makes perfect sense as Brototh said, someone who's in charge of a whole Ministry shouldn't be in charge of another half of the Congress, and personally I am in favour of it. But that being said, at the same time, I prefer debates like this, to be on the House RMB. While I understand, this was a suggestion that the legislator wanted to clarify and I commend him for suggesting fixes to the laws, but if this was debated on the House RMB, this could have also been an opportunity to have a vigorous debate on the House RMB(the official debate place) and elevate the performance of the House at least according to official records.

My concern is that a Congress server should not become a parallel debating place, which in turn, will reduce the significance of our official Congress regions and perhaps deprive some of the non-Discord users of seeing the debates.

The Congress Server's original purpose should be to allow the MPs and Senators to communicate between one other, communications between the Executive and the Legislature, and other confidential stuff.

At the same time, among the fresh-year MPs, I have been impressed with Sma Cyrillic. I have personally seen him searching for fixes and also ensuring efforts to fix them, through amendment, this is arguably the most important job of an MP: identifying any possible areas of concern in the legislations. And also, I have been impressed with other fresh-year MPs like Nova anglicum and Primo order and I have seen their dedication and hard work to their job. This is not to say, older MPs have not impressed me when in fact some of the older MPs have done an awesome and impressive work(Rhyssuan peoples, Islonia and Marvinville comes to my mind when I think of the older MPs who have also done an awesome work). In short, I am excited about the future some legislators in our region have :)

This post has been made by me in my personal capacity as a citizen of the region, not in the capacity of the Prime Minister

Indian genius, Trist paradise, Primo order, and Nova anglicum

The Islamic Country of Honour wrote:My concern is that a Congress server should not become a parallel debating place, which in turn, will reduce the significance of our official Congress regions and perhaps deprive some of the non-Discord users of seeing the debates.

The Congress Server's original purpose should be to allow the MPs and Senators to communicate between one other, communications between the Executive and the Legislature, and other confidential stuff.

For that to happen we'd need to be able to debate on several places at once. Sadly we don't have offsite forums to use multiple threads, so it kinda repents on discord. It's already been the case and always has been the case in #ns-politics anyway, so having a similar channel where only the legislator can speak isn't bad in of itself.

We've got too many bills in docket to only debate them a maximum of 8 days (5 if no amendments), and it's already been quite some time now that most legislative business works offsite anyway. Between us debating everywhere about lawmaking, fixing bills before having them sponsored or arrangements to pass urgent bills at once (looking at you Marvinville for the PRRA), or simply having several authors for one bill, it's already clear to me we've been slowly drifting offsite when it comes to legislating.

Indian genius and Rhyssuan peoples

Rhyssuan peoples

Alas we are mere mortals, restricted to formally debating one piece of legislation at a time in Congress. When we want to post our thoughts on something not currently being debated, what else can we do? While the congress server shouldn't supplant formal debate in the chambers' respective regions, there isn't any sign that it actually will, now or in the near future. Islo and Brototh's idea to create the server was brilliant at its inception and it still is: I highly doubt there will be a miscommunication between the chambers or between the branches again because of it.

Islonia, Indian genius, and Brototh

An idea I had a lil while ago which I asked Cerd about in #ns-pol of Thaecord was the idea of multiple "rooms" for each branch of Congress. The idea, in its very rough & unrevised form, is that the HoC & Senate regions become administrative hubs with a further 3 subregions called HoC Room 1, 2 & 3; Senate Room 1, 2, 3; whatever you want to call it.

This enables the chambers to juggle legislation - a skill which we've seen could be very very helpful, but it has its setbacks.

Namely, it would make the already difficult job of recordkeeping in Congress for the Speaker & Chairman even more difficult. It would also increase the workload on individual MPs & Senators which may be manageable but it's a risk.

If the rumoured talk of forums coming is to be believed, I'd be in favour of holding off on that idea. Forums would be much much better. But we need a bit more, Brototh forgive me, tranzparanzeeeeeee, from those who are planning the forums.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Indian genius

Andusre wrote:An idea I had a lil while ago which I asked Cerd about in #ns-pol of Thaecord was the idea of multiple "rooms" for each branch of Congress. The idea, in its very rough & unrevised form, is that the HoC & Senate regions become administrative hubs with a further 3 subregions called HoC Room 1, 2 & 3; Senate Room 1, 2, 3; whatever you want to call it.

This enables the chambers to juggle legislation - a skill which we've seen could be very very helpful, but it has its setbacks.

Namely, it would make the already difficult job of recordkeeping in Congress for the Speaker & Chairman even more difficult. It would also increase the workload on individual MPs & Senators which may be manageable but it's a risk. Anyone else have any thoughts?

Using onsite RMBs for that is a horror. Offsite forums or discord servers are much more organised and easier to use for that type of stuff.

Andusre, Indian genius, and Brototh

The Islamic Country of Honour wrote:I had suggested the formation of a combined server where the House and the Senate can communicate with each other in times of need

You may have "suggested it", ICH, but don't try and look as if you were actually doing any of it or try and take credit- people have suggested things for a very long time. We've suggested the entire law being reformed, the constitution, now this- it's funny when people who did nothing to actually bring something about take credit by saying they "suggested it". The whole thing is an entire work by myself and Islonia- another example of me and Islonia having to actually do things instead of the common practice nowadays of people standing around and talking about doing things rather than actually getting out and doing them.

The Islamic Country of Honour wrote:This came to my mind after I was seeing a House debate on the Server(with this, kudos to the server creators for the transparency), where a legislator suggested something about not allowing Ministers to become Speaker/Chairman. In my mind, it makes perfect sense as Brototh said, someone who's in charge of a whole Ministry shouldn't be in charge of another half of the Congress, and personally I am in favour of it. But that being said, at the same time, I prefer debates like this, to be on the House RMB. While I understand, this was a suggestion that the legislator wanted to clarify and I commend him for suggesting fixes to the laws, but if this was debated on the House RMB, this could have also been an opportunity to have a vigorous debate on the House RMB(the official debate place) and elevate the performance of the House at least according to official records.

Overall most of the post is what I really think is really a lot of being fearful of the future and not looking at the facts- we've had basically one suggestion in the server thus far (which was a suggestion of a bill that had not yet hit HoC floor, so it couldn't exactly be debated on the RMB- so I don't get why you raised that point, if this server didn't exist, the issue would be only MPs would know, not literally anyone else as they'd be doing it in private in their old server, not very transparant hmm?) and one debate in the Senate chat, where much much more of the debate was on the Senate RMB with Andusre pitching in on the RMB even.

The Islamic Country of Honour wrote:Even though the Discord Server has a significant number of members, not all of them is in the Server

You also make the point that not all of them are in the server when- while technically correct, sixteen out of seventeen Members of Congress are.

The Islamic Country of Honour wrote:At a time, when most of the works are arguably on Discord, we also should take into consideration there are still some citizens, who are eager to participate in the region but don't have Discord at the same time, so considering them, we shouldn't downgrade the role of our on-site RMB role any further.

The Discord serves as a place for rapid fire communication, not as major debate. It is not that and won't become it- people are always afraid of change and the future, as movies and Hollywood repeat that line over and over, it is true. We are not impairing on those unable to access Discord- we are simply utilising the technology we have at hand to stop the horrifying toxicity we had between the House and Senate hiding everything in private. Now if they have problems they can sit down and talk about it instead of talking behind people's backs in bad servers. This is not a bad thing, fast communication is good, and we aren't replacing Congress on Discord any time soon just because we have rapid communication. The RMB has not been downgraded, it never will be.

Indian genius

Islonia wrote:Using onsite RMBs for that is a horror. Offsite forums or discord servers are much more organised and easier to use for that type of stuff.

Mmm. Also I edited my post to include some which I think you seem to have missed.

Discord is OK, but the 2,000 character limit & the limitations on how many channels can be had is quite restricting.

Forums would be good for this.

Indian genius

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