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I hate it, that region had such a community, I am talking with RWOT rebels as of current
No. Regions get raided, that is that. We are not defenders. Honestly, it was a community of spammy, immature bottom-feeders which I'm not sad to see go.
Come on, Eesti. I expected better of you.
you expect better of me, someone known to be quite anti-defender? i also strongly dislike lethinia as a person, and am happy to see their region destroyed, especially as it pertains to their embassy request to Europe. I'm not the biggest fan of raiders, but nobody in that region was a user who posted high-quality posts. I'm not sad to see it go. Also, why are you so pro-fenda? They're literally raiders but hypocritical, look at Solidarity and Atlanticana!
Hadn't realized you were anti-defender. By default I expect all people to be pro-defender, as that is the moral choice.
Could I maybe get a rundown of what happened? This is the first time I'm hearing of this, and I'd like to be properly educated.
So what? Every non-raider region has a right to exist, no matter the quality of discussion. Different regions have different standards on post quality.
Counter-raiding against raiders is and will always be a good thing. It is war. I am pro-defender because I am anti-raider and support the continued leadership of the native populations of regions.
-it's not the moral choice, you're morally posturing, most defenders are sh*t people
-F7, mostly, and embassy spamming, and low-quality posting, and disliking each other's beliefs, etc
-yes, but when Eclipsis got raided, they reformed into their own region - that's what the repeal was about. every community has the right to exist, but their specific region they had everything saved, so it's not as big of a loss - just a name. Also, this implies you support fascist regions such as Fifth Empire.
-those weren't raider regions, they were leftists. are you anti-leftist now? raiding is a war fendas can't win, and although it is mostly a good thing for regions to exist, if a region gets raided, it's not too hard to reform and pretty quickly get back up to the same size - it took europe maybe a month, a month and a half with 900 nations ejected? it won't take that much for rwot 2 electric boogaloo
Czesfjord - Antimonyhampton/Na Tion/New Eestiball's comments did not violate the Sophian Constitution. I have unsuppressed them.
Title 1, Section 3 of the Constitution says that "No restrictions on freedom of speech or assembly shall be imposed in Sophia; except to prevent the propagation of pro-fascist, pro-communist, otherwise derogatory or spammy content, those deemed by the President of Sophia to be necessary in a democratic region, and those which have been imposed on nations by NationStates itself." Eesti's comments were none of these, nor did they violate the site rules - so they therefore shouldn't be suppressed. I would criticise a raider-aligned RO if they suppressed Husrien's comments, too.
Since when were "most" defenders bad people? Am I a bad person for supporting defenderdom as a movement?
Even if that is true, just because Lethinia made some bad choices doesn't mean that RWoT should be destroyed. A region is not its leader.
Even if the loss of Eclipsis wasn't so major, it is still a bad precedent to allow raiders to take over uninvolved lands. Not all regions have the luxury of a designated evacuation area.
No.
Whatever politics those regions formerly had does not matter. Also, saying that "most" raiders are hypocritical and then only giving 2 examples is a rather weak argument. Defending is a nebulous cloud of communities, and the actions of a few do not reflect defending as a whole.
Not with that attitude.
It would've been better if the raid didn't occur in the first place. Kelios, the region I was arguing about before, has since returned in full force. How exactly is this supporting your case? I also said continued leadership of native people, i.e. not interrupted by raiders.
If worst comes to worst, that route shall be taken. A better outcome would be for RWoT to revert to normal itself.
Gayphia.
That reminds me that Sophia has a pride version of their flag. Which also reminds me that our good fellow Tinhampton has forgotten to update our regional flag and biography.
I would like to draw everyone's attention to Roses Without Thorns, which has been recently raided. Recognising that RWOT recently had and issue with XXURBANXX, who was a fascist who has been dealt with and got rid of , and a mistake in the constitution that states RWOT accepts all ideologies including fascists.
This however has made a problem of RWOT being called a fascist state, even though it is not. In fact if you looked on the region's discord, you can see that the Republic of Libriano is outright banning any fascism in RWOT.
This has led nations to withdraw liberating this region even though it is a mistake. If you look at RWOT before the raids, you can see what a vibrant and beautiful culture and community it had. So I urge the NationStates community to please rethink not liberating this region, because it most definitely deserves it.
Thanks for listening, Czesfjord.
Huh? There was a raid? What happened?
Hello everyone I'm new here and to ns in general
Nice.
Yeah. The Brotherhood of Malice said "it's malice'n time" and malice'd all over the place.
Hello! If you haven't already, please join the World Assembly and endorse our regional leader Tinhampton!
Nah it's just on a new alt I made lol
*me Astan Reorn
Oh, okay.
I accidentally changed my Philosopher-Queen RO position that hadn't been touched in about three-and-a-half years as a result of trying to handle this change. Ooooooooops! At least now this gives me a bit more license to change it so I can remember what positions everyone's supposed to hold after they get the permanent job, which hopefully shouldn't be that often but almost caused me a bit of problems during the cabinet reshuffle a couple of weeks ago :p
Apparently I also didn't realise that Grish's Decoupling Amendment consolidated the President's unlimited powers? So I've gone ahead and granted that now.
That is... unfortunate...
Hello hello hello
You'll never guess who this is
Hmm is it potatopelago
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Hi, guys I'm new here!
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