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Hello people of Forest! I am Apply Aloe, the NWA representative to Forest. I can't wait to work with you!

The new bluestocking homeland, Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Mount Seymour, and 11 othersOwnzone, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Forgotten Beauty, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Forest turtle, Rivienland, and The southern cascadian states

Apply aloe wrote:Hello people of Forest! I am Apply Aloe, the NWA representative to Forest. I can't wait to work with you!

Welcome to Forest!

The new bluestocking homeland, Jutsa, Ownzone, Atsvea, and 5 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Canaltia, Forest turtle, and Glamorous Geese

The pan-dimensional dankistani seekers

Jutsa wrote:It's officially happened, guys. <3

Congratulations! And very well deserved too, I wasn't aware you did so much

Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Ownzone, Atsvea, and 6 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, and Forest turtle

The pan-dimensional dankistani seekers wrote:Congratulations! And very well deserved too, I wasn't aware you did so much

I wasn't aware it was considered as "so much" until the proposal started. lol

My regional affairs stuff couldn't be mentioned sadly, as the region is raider-oriented.
In all honesty, though, it feels like I do more on that front than all the stuff marked on the proposal combined. xD
(Course I do find it less fun, so that's probably why it feels like more.)

The new bluestocking homeland, Sacara, Frieden-und Freudenland, Atsvea, and 5 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, and Seagull

Jutsa wrote:I wasn't aware it was considered as "so much" until the proposal started. lol

My regional affairs stuff couldn't be mentioned sadly, as the region is raider-oriented.
In all honesty, though, it feels like I do more on that front than all the stuff marked on the proposal combined. xD
(Course I do find it less fun, so that's probably why it feels like more.)

You? A raider?

Holy weeds, one learns something new every day!

The new bluestocking homeland, Sacara, Jutsa, Mount Seymour, and 6 othersAtsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, and Seagull

Lol, yeah... it's a really long and complicated story, dates way back to September 2017 when I was looking at old GI posts.
I try to be a nice raider though, and I don't do it terribly often.
Turns out I'm one of the fastest jumpers and endorses, semi-ironically.

Most of the time I just do regional stuff, like recruitment(worst), integration, planning, law, ambassadorship, and trials.
Recently became a senator too, so that should be fun. :P

The new bluestocking homeland, Frieden-und Freudenland, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, and 5 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, and Seagull

Jutsa wrote:Lol, yeah... it's a really long and complicated story, dates way back to September 2017 when I was looking at old GI posts.
I try to be a nice raider though, and I don't do it terribly often.
Turns out I'm one of the fastest jumpers and endorses, semi-ironically.

Most of the time I just do regional stuff, like recruitment(worst), integration, planning, law, ambassadorship, and trials.
Recently became a senator too, so that should be fun. :P

Oh Lord, what dark secrets lurk in Jutsa's heart, blackened with evil? I pray for deliverance. Amen.

The new bluestocking homeland, Sacara, Jutsa, Atsvea, and 5 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, and Seagull

Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:Oh Lord, what dark secrets lurk in Jutsa's heart, blackened with evil? I pray for deliverance. Amen.

Eh, nothing much. Ok, upon actually typing this and being half-way through, I thought it best to put it in the spoiler cause... well, I'm a chatterbox.

Basically I asked Unibot (I didn't know who he was back then) if I could co-author/pick up his old draft about making @@CAPITAL@@ underground (back when GI started basically), he said sure but only if I help with the Laz liberation, and I figured I'd kinda like to give military GP a try (was just getting into forum stuff after all), and so I did it, and then I told Frenchy who was over in the GI discord about being in military, and he said "oh yeah come join meh" and he was like "it's a raider region" and I was like "do I have to raid" and he was like "you can do regional maintenance stuff" and I was like "sure" but next thing I knew, it was pretty much only raiding. Thought about becoming a defender originally, but then I kinda grew to like the guys there and plus I didn't realize they hated each other so much so I was basically kept there right away. Eventually the region merged and the new region shied away from military to region-hood (not totally, but a good bit), and the government was particularly unstable then, so I spent a lot of time trying to make sure the region had some newcomers to make it stable. Seems to have worked. Never did co-author that draft of Unibot's though because by the time spring came round, I realized I didn't even do it, and rereading it I thought "What was I thinking?". Good times.

The new bluestocking homeland, Frieden-und Freudenland, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 4 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, and Seagull

Jutsa wrote:Eh, nothing much. Ok, upon actually typing this and being half-way through, I thought it best to put it in the spoiler cause... well, I'm a chatterbox.

Basically I asked Unibot (I didn't know who he was back then) if I could co-author/pick up his old draft about making @@CAPITAL@@ underground (back when GI started basically), he said sure but only if I help with the Laz liberation, and I figured I'd kinda like to give military GP a try (was just getting into forum stuff after all), and so I did it, and then I told Frenchy who was over in the GI discord about being in military, and he said "oh yeah come join meh" and he was like "it's a raider region" and I was like "do I have to raid" and he was like "you can do regional maintenance stuff" and I was like "sure" but next thing I knew, it was pretty much only raiding. Thought about becoming a defender originally, but then I kinda grew to like the guys there and plus I didn't realize they hated each other so much so I was basically kept there right away. Eventually the region merged and the new region shied away from military to region-hood (not totally, but a good bit), and the government was particularly unstable then, so I spent a lot of time trying to make sure the region had some newcomers to make it stable. Seems to have worked. Never did co-author that draft of Unibot's though because by the time spring came round, I realized I didn't even do it, and rereading it I thought "What was I thinking?". Good times.

Ah, well, OK. Raiding is this weird gray area, after all. Technically, it is not against the game rules to raid. The game machinery allows that, so you can do it, I suppose.

But at the same time, all that raiding does is to spoil the fun of the game for others - so I can't really be impartial.

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Here is a little digression.

A couple of days ago, there emerged a video of a Turkish couple on social media who were caught on a security camera while they brutally destroyed a snowman.

Yeah, my word choice may be ridiculous. After all, a snowman can't feel pain, so what brutality are we talking about, right? But no, you should have seen it. They literally punched and kicked it with all their might, as if the poor snowman was their archenemy, until what was left of it was a heap of snow.

The shopkeepers in the area who had diligently built the snowman were upset the next morning when they saw it was gone, so they even went into the trouble to check the security cameras to see what happened overnight. That's how the midnight revelry of the violent couple surfaced, and was leaked on social media.

It made me angry. I felt sad at the loss of maybe hours of meticulous work that the builders had put into making that snowman, and their hopes, their childish joy & anticipation of seeing it the next morning... all destroyed at the whim of a silly couple.

It reminded me of some snotty kids who I was forced to play with in kindergarten, and who destroyed the things I built with LEGOs, getting a kick out of destruction. (Mind you, they weren't dismantling the stuff I built in order to build new stuff. They just did it for the sake of destruction.) Fruits of your labor annihilated in a moment by a mischievous little brat... It is hard to make, but so easy to mar, so a tower you built in half an hour can tumble down in half a second with the kick of a b*stard. It drove me crazy.

Similarly, when some people defended this violent, snowman-destroying couple, I was mad. It wasn't OK to destroy a snowman so recklessly. The snowman was the fruit of someone's labor, someone who had given in to the little child in him/her (or maybe someone who WAS a child) and made that snowman. Maybe they were hoping to see it again next morning, and it would have put a smile on their face.

A lot of people would say "Come on, it's just a snowman." just as a lot of people would tell me "Come on, it's just a silly LEGO tower, you can make a new one."

I wanted to slap them in the face.

Because it is never just a snowman, or just a tower.

It's your work, and it's dear to you.

I feel the same way about raiding.

Sure, it's just a game. What's the big deal about losing your WA delegate or getting kicked out of your "cyberhome" by the new raider lord who swings the banhammer, right?

Maybe.

But it's never just a game.

It is an endeavor (though it may be a futile one) that people invest their time in and where people find joy. Raiding is a form of robbery, where these people are robbed of their joy.

Just like the poor guys whose snowman was destroyed.

Maybe that's why I have a hard time forgiving raiders...

(Don't take it personal, though)

Zwangzug, The new bluestocking homeland, Sacara, Candlewhisper Archive, and 12 othersJutsa, Mount Seymour, Eryndlynd, Shwe Tu Colony, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Uan aa Boa, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Rivienland, and Azaffran

No hard feelings. I understand, really, and it is indeed ironic that I am a raider.

Most of the regions I've been involved in are basically 1-4-player regions that've already been raided and inactive for nearly a year (usual tags).
Any I raid that have been active, however, I try to keep onto all the data I can (wfe and flags mainly), send 'em back a tg with the data,
and if I have no control of that, I just try to make the rmb as fun and native-friendly as possible.

Again, I try to be a nice raider. My regional loyalty, and urge to make the inevitably raided regions better,
will probably mean I'll be doing it for some time, too. But believe me, I understand why you have a grudge against it.

Jutsa wrote:No hard feelings. I understand, really, and it is indeed ironic that I am a raider.

Most of the regions I've been involved in are basically 1-4-player regions that've already been raided and inactive for nearly a year (usual tags).
Any I raid that have been active, however, I try to keep onto all the data I can (wfe and flags mainly), send 'em back a tg with the data,
and if I have no control of that, I just try to make the rmb as fun and native-friendly as possible.

Again, I try to be a nice raider. My regional loyalty, and urge to make the inevitably raided regions better,
will probably mean I'll be doing it for some time, too. But believe me, I understand why you have a grudge against it.

It's totally OK. It's totally impersonal.

I see why one may express surprise at someone who takes raiding so seriously... because some people do think that it is just a game and we should be chill about it. I try to see their point of view, and this is just my point of view, if anyone cares to read. I always felt like I had to explain and justify what I felt about raiding, and now that the topic of raiding was under discussion, I thought I would seize the opportunity to talk about it, that's all :)

The new bluestocking homeland, Jutsa, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, and 4 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, and Seagull

Most of the time I do see it as a game, myself, as I've stated about the inactive regions.
The rest... well, lets just say I really do understand. :)

Anyhow sorry to clutter the RMB with my NS second half. xD
But it's been a fun discussion. :3

The new bluestocking homeland, Sacara, Frieden-und Freudenland, Atsvea, and 7 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Rejectionville, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, and Rivienland

Rejectionville

Ugh, nation cards. Love 'em and hate 'em at the same time.

Apply aloe wrote:Hello people of Forest! I am Apply Aloe, the NWA representative to Forest. I can't wait to work with you!

O/

Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, and 1 otherCanaltia

Rejectionville wrote:Ugh, nation cards. Love 'em and hate 'em at the same time.

I hate fascist and authoritarian nations' cards

Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Forgotten Beauty, and 5 othersRejectionville, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Santa guerrera, and The pan-dimensional dankistani seekers

Prasna wrote:I hate fascist and authoritarian nations' cards

Profiting off leftist nations cards is fun tho.

Frieden-und Freudenland, Atsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 6 othersForgotten Beauty, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Honeysalad, and Prasna

Santa guerrera

Forrest Quote of the Fortnight

"How is it possible that the most intellectual creature to ever walk the planet Earth is destroying its only home?"

~ Jane Goodall

Aclion wrote:Profiting off leftist nations cards is fun tho.

Lol I just got to Tyranny by Majority

Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, and Canaltia

Aclion wrote:Profiting off leftist nations cards is fun tho.

I got you card so high market value in my main nation UwU

Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, and Canaltia

Post self-deleted by Prasna.

Post self-deleted by Euleria.

Post self-deleted by Prasna.

Mate, don't double post, and certainly don't sit here having conversations with your own puppets. It's not something we welcome here.

The new bluestocking homeland, Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Mount Seymour, and 9 othersAtsvea, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Uan aa Boa, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Apabeossie, and Prasna

So Mount Seymour's suggested amendment to the constitution has received 23-7 support in the poll, more than 75% of the vote.

On that basis I'd like to invite Mount Seymour to edit the proposal in order to clarify the definition of an electoral year and to include Ruinenlust's grammatical correction. I'd also like to ask Errinundera for their approval to proceed to a formal vote on amending the constitution.

Also, to officially follow-up what Candlewhisper Archive said above - Euleria/Prasna it's great to have you with us in Forest (and I love the 7 bridges of Konigsberg flag) but please don't multi-post (there is an edit function) or spam the RMB.

The new bluestocking homeland, Frieden-und Freudenland, Mount Seymour, Atsvea, and 8 othersRuinenlust, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Turbeaux, Canaltia, Seagull, Apabeossie, and Rivienland

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Mate, don't double post, and certainly don't sit here having conversations with your own puppets. It's not something we welcome here.

Sorry :(

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