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RENT FREE LAND wrote:Fellow Fascist's "We" Shall Establish Embussy With The Fellow People Of "The Reich" "They" Have Same Mindset & Goal Now Go Figure "It" Out !

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I think it is funny yet serious that the questions of the right differ from country to country. America has its Jewish and Black Question, and we Germans have our Turkish Question. In the end, and most importantly, Germany has no further topics to discuss. We have already finished our Jewish Question and the Black Question is cannot be seriously debated here. I am very troubled considering the Turks, on one hand they might be a vital asset and a brother against the eternal liberal, yet they a still seperate.

Apanburg wrote:I think it is funny yet serious that the questions of the right differ from country to country. America has its Jewish and Black Question, and we Germans have our Turkish Question. In the end, and most importantly, Germany has no further topics to discuss. We have already finished our Jewish Question and the Black Question is cannot be seriously debated here. I am very troubled considering the Turks, on one hand they might be a vital asset and a brother against the eternal liberal, yet they a still seperate.

Non-liberalism is the norm for most of the world. Most people around the world do not live in liberal societies or accept the liberal universalist worldview. Only in the West is this view one of the most prevalent and subversive. Non-liberalism also used to be the norm in Europe, until the last few centuries.

First and foremost, Fascism must be a national and spiritual enlightenment of a people. Before parceling out and categorizing moral principles and policies, a people must achieve National Salvation. This is achieved when a people realizes their unique place in the world as a timeless collective agent and gain a selfless loyalty and love for their own. Only from the standpoint of National Salvation can a person judge, with a clear conscience, the merits and pitfalls of moral principles and policies, according to Fascism.

Liberalism in the West can be reversed and eliminated very quickly if there is a political will, even using democratic means, partly because of the glaring inconsistencies underlying liberal ideology and partly because human beings are not naturally inclined to act according to the moral principles of liberalism such as utilitarianism and egalitarianism. You don't need Turks to help you do this. They will simply use the current liberal orthodoxy to their own people's advantage or replace it with their cultural and religious systems, social processes, and institutions. It's basically the same as being conquered. Don't fall into the trap of turning over your country to foreigners who hate you just for the sake of destroying liberalism.

Post by Thermopylae suppressed by Apanburg.

AWOO!!! AWOO!!! AWOO!!!

This, is, Volkisch Spartaaaa...lamenting the rejection of Embassies with United Fascist Workers Association.

However, may the gods still smile upon all Associates and...if not at Thermopylae...then we shall see you all at Plataea!

From all citizens and the government of the Anarhid, we want to express our great sympathy and condolences to the families of the dead and wounded in Moscow! We call on our allied countries to continue to fight global terrorism

Post by Soviet cobra communist republic suppressed by The Bolivian Socialist Falange.

Anarhid wrote:From all citizens and the government of the Anarhid, we want to express our great sympathy and condolences to the families of the dead and wounded in Moscow! We call on our allied countries to continue to fight global terrorism

Moscow is my nations capital in nation states. 💀💀💀

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Zordennox wrote:Non-liberalism is the norm for most of the world. Most people around the world do not live in liberal societies or accept the liberal universalist worldview. Only in the West is this view one of the most prevalent and subversive. Non-liberalism also used to be the norm in Europe, until the last few centuries.

First and foremost, Fascism must be a national and spiritual enlightenment of a people. Before parceling out and categorizing moral principles and policies, a people must achieve National Salvation. This is achieved when a people realizes their unique place in the world as a timeless collective agent and gain a selfless loyalty and love for their own. Only from the standpoint of National Salvation can a person judge, with a clear conscience, the merits and pitfalls of moral principles and policies, according to Fascism.

Liberalism in the West can be reversed and eliminated very quickly if there is a political will, even using democratic means, partly because of the glaring inconsistencies underlying liberal ideology and partly because human beings are not naturally inclined to act according to the moral principles of liberalism such as utilitarianism and egalitarianism. You don't need Turks to help you do this. They will simply use the current liberal orthodoxy to their own people's advantage or replace it with their cultural and religious systems, social processes, and institutions. It's basically the same as being conquered. Don't fall into the trap of turning over your country to foreigners who hate you just for the sake of destroying liberalism.

Do you have butthurt about Turks?

Turanian Utopia wrote:Do you have butthurt about Turks?

No, I have nothing against Turks in general. I have a problem with imperialism, the colonization of Europe, and Islam. It is now a consequence of increased globalization, but Turkey also has an Ottoman history of occupation and oppression that it must come to terms with. I believe imperialism is the antithesis of nationalism and is problematic for Fascists to consciously endorse. Fascism is generally neutral toward organized religion like Christianity and Islam, but it opposes coercion and forcing others to believe in God and follow a theistic doctrine like sharia.

Turkish Fascism recognizes that Ottoman imperialism was wrong and does not wish to repeat the mistakes of the past. It proposes Turkish nationalism. It also understands that Islam has a place in upholding morality in society, and that spirituality is a vital process in raising up and ennobling the masses toward a higher consciousness, but does not wish to force anyone to believe in Islam and practice sharia. I explained the concept of National Salvation, and Turks must achieve this to finally declare independence and build a respectable nation for themselves.

Zordennox wrote:

Turkish Fascism

I would say the general idea of the new Turkish Nation is meant as an Ethnostate and not as a successor to the Caliph. I would thus say Turkey can be a cornorstone for the new Revolution they would in turn be granted their claims in the Caucasus and the Levant. The issue is the culture though. Culture may not be directly linked to race, but I believe because the foundation of all cultures is religion, they are not too compatible with us in the West. I am a critic of that "Western Civ VS Eastern Civ" view, because Germany can as well switch to the east and Germany IS a cornorstone in mainland Europe, and also that Nations like Turkey, Russia and China are considered, at least in part, natural enemy.

If the new right wing in Germany will be more above religion (at least in the sense that we do not care to enforce it), what it looks like, I can imagine the Turks playing a helping hand and their own position in a fourth Reich even though many Ethnonationalists disagree. I see the current racial mix to be preserve as to give a omnipresent easy example of the failures of liberal and marxist democracy. Much of future modern fascist believe will still need to be forged by geopolitics itself, especially if Nations like the UK will be enemy of friend.

I have personally a distain for pure Ethnostates because they value race more than culture, which is what makes them lose in discussions. In the future, and I say in the optimal outcome that I (and we in general should) work for is the creation of a centralized earth government under the wings of fascism or at least honest, non-corrupt Governmentforms. And do not get me wrong, not a UN-Type "Plurality and Equality will fix everything" view, but in a European-lead (if we are still worthy) Federation, like for example Germany is and was organized.

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