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Developing World wrote:I see. I have some Amendments to this one

Im actually not sure if were allowed to amend the house bills. To be clear, we will be debating the dairy one first.

Titanne wrote:Im actually not sure if were allowed to amend the house bills. To be clear, we will be debating the dairy one first.

So we are not? Wierd but ok

Im not entirely sure. I have sent. Xernon a telegram asking.

Titanne wrote:
Ministerial Hearings Act - H.B. 001
Author: Rayekka
Sponsor: Rayekka

To further the checks & balances purpose of Congress. Hereby enacts the following.

The purpose of Ministerial Hearings is for Congress to submit questions to a specific Minister in the executive government, to make sure progress and competence is being carried out by the executive branch. All members of the Government are subject to Ministerial Hearings. Members of the Government are defined as the Prime Minister, the Minister for Home Affairs, the Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Justice Minister, the Cultural/Entertainment Minister, and the Roleplay Minister. The President is not subject to Ministerial Hearings. Ministerial Hearings will be held on that Houses RMB.

Every Monday, the House of Commons business will stop and the Speaker will call upon a Minister to speak in the House of Commons (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Members of Parliament will be able to submit questions to the Speaker. On Monday, the Speaker will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.
When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Speaker can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.
Ministers may also make statements to the House as separate to answering questions.

Every Friday, Senate business will stop and the Senate President will call upon a Minister to speak in the Senate (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Senators will be able to submit questions to the Senate President. On Friday, the Senate President will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.
When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Senate President can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.
Ministers may also make statements to the Senate as separate to answering questions.

Ministerial Hearings are ran on a 6 week schedule. The House of Commons & Senate schedules will be different.
House of Commons Schedule:
Week 1: The Prime Minister
Week 2: The Culture/Entertainment Minister
Week 3: The Foreign Affairs Minister
Week 4: The Justice Minister
Week 5: The Home Affairs Minister
Week 6: The Roleplay Minister
Senate Schedule:
Week 1: The Justice Minister
Week 2: The Home Affairs Minister
Week 3: The Roleplay Minister
Week 4: The Prime Minister
Week 5: The Culture/Entertainment Minister
Week 6: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Urgent Ministerial Hearings are un-scheduled hearings that will be held if a group of Members of Parliament or Senators believe one is required.
In order for an Urgent Ministerial Hearing to be held, a proposal must be put to the floor of that chamber and passed with a simple majority. If the proposal passes, the Urgent Ministerial Hearing must be held within 3 days of the proposal being passed, not including Mondays and Fridays.
In the event of an Urgent Ministerial Hearing, members of the chamber holding the Hearing may submit questions as they please in which the Minister must answer all of them that day.
Urgent Ministerial Hearings will be held in that chambers RMB.

This law shall come into effect the next Monday after this law is passed.

I support this bill at it's current state, I am sure it will do a good job at helping the government and the region as a whole to understand the performance of the cabinet (if it has any problems which the Parliament could possibly adress through legislation for example). Not sure what exactly Developing has planned for his amendment, however I am unsure if the Senate is technically allowed to amend legislation. Our constitution states:

"Any bill drafted and proposed to the House must achieve 50% of the chamber's support. If it meets this threshold, it shall be passed to the Senate where it also must achieve 50% support. If it fails to reach 50% support in the Senate, it may be sent back to the Commons to be amended or scrapped. If it does command a half of the Senate's support, it will become law. The same process will be applied for bills originating in the Senate, which will be sent to the House upon passage."

So judging by my interpretation, if we were to amend the bill on the Senate we would require for it to be sent back to the House once again to be voted there, considering that if the bill was amended it's version approved in the Senate technically wasn't approved by the House, and it seems as if a proposal requires 50% of both chambers to become law. At the same time the Constitution is technically not being fully enforced yet, so I am not sure if that really matters, either way I believe it's an issue which should be brought up on our constitutional convention.

Thursday night, assuming that the Senate has received a response about amending legislation, we will have an official debate about House Bill #2. This debate will be held in between 3:00 and 4:00 pm. Please do not comment on the Senate RMB, but telegram one of the senators with your concerns or ideas. All citizens of Thaecia

Cerdenia wrote:I support this bill at it's current state, I am sure it will do a good job at helping the government and the region as a whole to understand the performance of the cabinet (if it has any problems which the Parliament could possibly adress through legislation for example). Not sure what exactly Developing has planned for his amendment, however I am unsure if the Senate is technically allowed to amend legislation. Our constitution states:

"Any bill drafted and proposed to the House must achieve 50% of the chamber's support. If it meets this threshold, it shall be passed to the Senate where it also must achieve 50% support. If it fails to reach 50% support in the Senate, it may be sent back to the Commons to be amended or scrapped. If it does command a half of the Senate's support, it will become law. The same process will be applied for bills originating in the Senate, which will be sent to the House upon passage."

So judging by my interpretation, if we were to amend the bill on the Senate we would require for it to be sent back to the House once again to be voted there, considering that if the bill was amended it's version approved in the Senate technically wasn't approved by the House, and it seems as if a proposal requires 50% of both chambers to become law. At the same time the Constitution is technically not being fully enforced yet, so I am not sure if that really matters, either way I believe it's an issue which should be brought up on our constitutional convention.

Yes, that is what I thought as well, but just to be sure.

Post self-deleted by Titanne.

Please disregard any talk I had about a timed debate. I see that this was flawed tanks to Cerdenia, so the debate WILL NOT HAPPEN.

Debates may now begin on The Marconian States Bill. Xernon has clarified, and amendments proceed as Cerdenia thought.

Resolution on the Viscosity of Yogurt and other Dairy Products - H.B. 002
Author: The Marconian State
Sponsor: The Marconian State
WHEREAS the viscosity of yogurt within the region is either too liquid or too thick,
WHEREAS some cheeses, when processed in certain fashions, may cause health concerns to the general populace,
ENACTS a regulatory body called the Thaecian Cheese and Yogurt Administration (CYA) in order to properly regulate the viscosity and processing of yogurts and other cheese and dairy products,
BARS any yogurt, cheese, and other dairy products from making it onto the market without inspection by the CYA,
DELEGATES the structure of the regulatory body of the CYA to the President,
ALLOCATES funds to pay for the expenses of the CYA every financial year, adjusted for inflation, with increases or decreases to the budget to be approved by the House and Senate, as according to the Constitution.

Please post any comments you have here!
Developing World
Cerdenia
Greater conexus
Albianis

Titanne wrote:
Resolution on the Viscosity of Yogurt and other Dairy Products - H.B. 002
Author: The Marconian State
Sponsor: The Marconian State
WHEREAS the viscosity of yogurt within the region is either too liquid or too thick,
WHEREAS some cheeses, when processed in certain fashions, may cause health concerns to the general populace,
ENACTS a regulatory body called the Thaecian Cheese and Yogurt Administration (CYA) in order to properly regulate the viscosity and processing of yogurts and other cheese and dairy products,
BARS any yogurt, cheese, and other dairy products from making it onto the market without inspection by the CYA,
DELEGATES the structure of the regulatory body of the CYA to the President,
ALLOCATES funds to pay for the expenses of the CYA every financial year, adjusted for inflation, with increases or decreases to the budget to be approved by the House and Senate, as according to the Constitution.

Please post any comments you have here!
Developing World
Cerdenia
Greater conexus
Albianis

I am absolutely against this resolution. The senate is late, we have no time to debate joke Roleplay Legislation, RP legislation occasionally wouldn't be a problem, but currently the senate has more important things to do. I encourage all Senators to vote against this resolution when voting time comes, let's just vote this down quickly so we won't have to waste anymore time.

also Titanne Andusre asked me to ask you to join discord so I am just posting this here so he won't get mad at me lol.

Pekares, Developing World, Andusre, Xernon, and 2 othersTitanne, and Greater conexus

Titanne wrote:Resolution on the Viscosity of Yogurt and other Dairy Products - H.B. 002
Author: The Marconian State
Sponsor: The Marconian State
WHEREAS the viscosity of yogurt within the region is either too liquid or too thick,
WHEREAS some cheeses, when processed in certain fashions, may cause health concerns to the general populace,
ENACTS a regulatory body called the Thaecian Cheese and Yogurt Administration (CYA) in order to properly regulate the viscosity and processing of yogurts and other cheese and dairy products,
BARS any yogurt, cheese, and other dairy products from making it onto the market without inspection by the CYA,
DELEGATES the structure of the regulatory body of the CYA to the President,
ALLOCATES funds to pay for the expenses of the CYA every financial year, adjusted for inflation, with increases or decreases to the budget to be approved by the House and Senate, as according to the Constitution.

Please post any comments you have here!
Developing World
Cerdenia
Greater conexus
Albianis

It is way to early to vote on RP legislation. We should first adress the important issues for Thaecia and after that vote on RP legislation. I will vote against any RP legislation during my first three months. After that I might reconsider

Still a no. We can put this legislation on hold until we have time for it. Now, let's vote on Rayekka's bill.
Cerdenia
Developing World
Albianis
Greater conexus

Titanne wrote:Still a no. We can put this legislation on hold until we have time for it. Now, let's vote on Rayekka's bill.
Cerdenia
Developing World
Albianis
Greater conexus

So we can not amend it?

Ministerial Hearings Act - H.B. 001
Author: Rayekka
Sponsor: Rayekka

To further the checks & balances purpose of Congress. Hereby enacts the following.

The purpose of Ministerial Hearings is for Congress to submit questions to a specific Minister in the executive government, to make sure progress and competence is being carried out by the executive branch. All members of the Government are subject to Ministerial Hearings. Members of the Government are defined as the Prime Minister, the Minister for Home Affairs, the Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Justice Minister, the Cultural/Entertainment Minister, and the Roleplay Minister. The President is not subject to Ministerial Hearings. Ministerial Hearings will be held on that Houses RMB.

Every Monday, the House of Commons business will stop and the Speaker will call upon a Minister to speak in the House of Commons (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Members of Parliament will be able to submit questions to the Speaker. On Monday, the Speaker will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.
When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Speaker can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.
Ministers may also make statements to the House as separate to answering questions.

Every Friday, Senate business will stop and the Senate President will call upon a Minister to speak in the Senate (what Minister is called is set out in Section 4). Throughout the week Senators will be able to submit questions to the Senate President. On Friday, the Senate President will then select and submit 5 questions to the Minister that must be answered that day.
When the Prime Minister is called to a hearing. The Senate President can select and submit 8 questions to the Prime Minister.
Ministers may also make statements to the Senate as separate to answering questions.

Ministerial Hearings are ran on a 6 week schedule. The House of Commons & Senate schedules will be different.
House of Commons Schedule:
Week 1: The Prime Minister
Week 2: The Culture/Entertainment Minister
Week 3: The Foreign Affairs Minister
Week 4: The Justice Minister
Week 5: The Home Affairs Minister
Week 6: The Roleplay Minister
Senate Schedule:
Week 1: The Justice Minister
Week 2: The Home Affairs Minister
Week 3: The Roleplay Minister
Week 4: The Prime Minister
Week 5: The Culture/Entertainment Minister
Week 6: The Foreign Affairs Minister

Urgent Ministerial Hearings are un-scheduled hearings that will be held if a group of Members of Parliament or Senators believe one is required.
In order for an Urgent Ministerial Hearing to be held, a proposal must be put to the floor of that chamber and passed with a simple majority. If the proposal passes, the Urgent Ministerial Hearing must be held within 3 days of the proposal being passed, not including Mondays and Fridays.
In the event of an Urgent Ministerial Hearing, members of the chamber holding the Hearing may submit questions as they please in which the Minister must answer all of them that day.
Urgent Ministerial Hearings will be held in that chambers RMB.

This law shall come into effect the next Monday after this law is passed.

Titanne wrote:Still a no. We can put this legislation on hold until we have time for it. Now, let's vote on Rayekka's bill

Personally I believe we should give it a bit more time to debate, I was the only Senator who even gave an opinion on it.

Developing World wrote:So we can not amend it?

No.

Titanne wrote:No.

Crap

Cerdenia wrote:Personally I believe we should give it a bit more time to debate, I was the only Senator who even gave an opinion on it.

I agree, and Developing World just gave his opinion. All of us are no's, so let's just hold off for a few weeks until we have free time

Titanne wrote:I agree, and Developing World just gave his opinion. All of us are no's, so let's just hold off for a few weeks until we have free time

Agreed

I vote AYE on this bill, with the specification that the Amendment thing must be fixed. What is even the point of another filter of bills who cannot modify anything?

Titanne wrote:I agree, and Developing World just gave his opinion. All of us are no's, so let's just hold off for a few weeks until we have free time

I was reffering to Rayekka's bill, just give it at least a few more hours of debate so that Greater Conexus and Albianis can give their opinions.

Cerdenia wrote:I was reffering to Rayekka's bill, just give it at least a few more hours of debate so that Greater Conexus and Albianis can give their opinions.

There is no point in that if they cannot amend anything

I

Developing World wrote:I vote AYE on this bill, with the specification that the Amendment thing must be fixed. What is even the point of another filter of bills who cannot modify anything?

We can, but it has to go back to the House of Commons for ratifications.

Titanne wrote:IWe can, but it has to go back to the House of Commons for ratifications.

Fine. Then I propose an Amendment

Cerdenia wrote:I was reffering to Rayekka's bill, just give it at least a few more hours of debate so that Greater Conexus and Albianis can give their opinions.

Of course. The vote will probably take place tomorrow.

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