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Das funfte kaiserreich wrote:It will actually be a constitutional monarchy. But we can certainly say that it will be more democratic, I've got no clue how exactly We're even going to repair our cities without economic aid.

well, we've rebuild Berlin already, mostly to the city before the war

Utocratic north america

Odrya

Veneti marsei wrote:Veneti Marsei supports the creation of a democratic, sovereign Germany (with substantial oversight), so that the German people may
freely self-determine. Frankly, the nation of Veneti Marsei and its people see the divvying up of Germany at all to be a disgusting, imperialistic pursuit. No people should be subject to the rule of a distant, foreign monarch if they do not desire it.

A democratic German republic will have the economic and political support of Veneti Marsei, so that it may get on its feet.

Das funfte kaiserreich wrote:It will actually be a constitutional monarchy. But we can certainly say that it will be more democratic, I've got no clue how exactly We're even going to repair our cities without economic aid.

IC:
Utocratic North America will not stand for the creation of any kind of non-republican Germany. The old nobility and royals of their unholy country destroyed our nation using it to do battle with the Japanese. Then, they cruelly ruled us for over 5 years as a colony, and actually attempted to set up a proto-facist state in our nation.

Having recently liberated ourselves from the German Menace and having brought our people to the light of Utocracy, we promise to make the tenure of any monarchist German state as difficult as possible.

Das funfte kaiserreich

Utocratic north america wrote:IC:
Utocratic North America will not stand for the creation of any kind of non-republican Germany. The old nobility and royals of their unholy country destroyed our nation using it to do battle with the Japanese. Then, they cruelly ruled us for over 5 years as a colony, and actually attempted to set up a proto-facist state in our nation.

Having recently liberated ourselves from the German Menace and having brought our people to the light of Utocracy, we promise to make the tenure of any monarchist German state as difficult as possible.

Sjevre wrote:RP

Sjevre greatly understands the will to return to the homeland. However, the question is why the nobiliy should return for a democratic state. The high class has made Europe suffer in the past 100 years and more, by theire totalitarian regime. Creating a German state is the intention, but whether those nobles are involved needs to be seen. Though we keep a positive stance

Very well. The nobility will be allowed to keep their personal wealth, but will be stripped of any political power whatsoever. The new German government also promises to trial certain individuals for war crimes as well.

Sjevre, Romanum et Britannia Minor, The Sovereign Nation of Texas, Veneti marsei, and 1 otherUtocratic north america

Utocratic north america

Odrya

Das funfte kaiserreich wrote:Very well. The nobility will be allowed to keep their personal wealth, but will be stripped of any political power whatsoever. The new German government also promises to trial certain individuals for war crimes as well.

RP:
Utocratic North America agrees to these terms, but also places a further condition.

The creation of a Utocratic party in Germany will guarantee financial aid from UNA. However, we will also accept the creation of a Democratic Germany. Albeit, no financial aid will be granted for the latter.

Das funfte kaiserreich wrote:Very well. The nobility will be allowed to keep their personal wealth, but will be stripped of any political power whatsoever. The new German government also promises to trial certain individuals for war crimes as well.

RP

Vantier will not recognize the new German State once it is created (if it becomes official), since it will serve as a de facto puppet state of the Imperial powers that occupied Germany. As such, the German government will be considered a hostage of the TTO, forced to do as they say.

Vantierian troops from the colonies have been redirected to the border with the German Congo. Vantier respects Germany's ownership of the Congo, but any kind of hostility towards us will be met with force.

Meanwhile, Schwarzenberg has sent a letter asking Sjevre, Romanum et Britannia Minor and the rest of the TTO to sign a peace treaty with Vantier, and end the war which should've ended a long time ago.

Vantier wrote:RP

Vantier will not recognize the new German State once it is created (if it becomes official), since it will serve as a de facto puppet state of the Imperial powers that occupied Germany. As such, the German government will be considered a hostage of the TTO, forced to do as they say.

Vantierian troops from the colonies have been redirected to the border with the German Congo. Vantier respects Germany's ownership of the Congo, but any kind of hostility towards us will be met with force.

Meanwhile, Schwarzenberg has sent a letter asking Sjevre, Romanum et Britannia Minor and the rest of the TTO to sign a peace treaty with Vantier, and end the war which should've ended a long time ago.

RP

Sjevre watches the signatures with great joy. "The greatest moment of the 30s of the 21st century is coming" reported a newspaper as its main headline. Sjevre proposes to hold the peace treat in a neutral country such as Veneti marsei or Gargano. Though online is a new possibility.

It's so odd hearing "God Save the King" being sung...

Romanum et Britannia Minor wrote:It's so odd hearing "God Save the King" being sung...

watching football?

Sjevre wrote:watching football?

Yep.

Veneti marsei

Utocratic north america wrote:RP:
Utocratic North America agrees to these terms, but also places a further condition.

The creation of a Utocratic party in Germany will guarantee financial aid from UNA. However, we will also accept the creation of a Democratic Germany. Albeit, no financial aid will be granted for the latter.

Germany, don't let them push you around. They are a fledgling North American nation, they have no right to demand the establishment of their interests within Germany whilst providing nothing to you. YOU are the one giving THEM their land.

Veneti marsei

Sjevre wrote:RP

Sjevre watches the signatures with great joy. "The greatest moment of the 30s of the 21st century is coming" reported a newspaper as its main headline. Sjevre proposes to hold the peace treat in a neutral country such as Veneti marsei or Gargano. Though online is a new possibility.

Veneti Marsei, as a neutral nation that does not favor one side over the other (it generally is cold to both) and wishes for nothing but peace to facilitate free trade and the loss of life, would be happy to host the peace conference.

Veneti marsei wrote:Veneti Marsei, as a neutral nation that does not favor one side over the other (it generally is cold to both) and wishes for nothing but peace to facilitate free trade and the loss of life, would be happy to host the peace conference.

RP

Vantier does not mind Veneti marsei hosting the peace negotiations. Now it's up to the TTO to agree to hold the peace negotiations here, and the war will hopefully come to an end.

Veneti marsei

Most excellent. Should Veneti Marsei be chosen as the host for the peace treaty, we would like to host it at the historical city of Ronaele, in Circumserie Hall where many treaties throughout Veneti Marseian history have been signed. However, we are amenable to hosting it wherever in whatever city the international community may choose.

Utocratic north america

Odrya

Veneti marsei wrote:Germany, don't let them push you around. They are a fledgling North American nation, they have no right to demand the establishment of their interests within Germany whilst providing nothing to you. YOU are the one giving THEM their land.

I'm actually offering them financial aid in return. Plus, I'm not forcing them to become Utocratic, just allow a Utocrat party to form. Also, we took back our land by force. The only reason why the Germans even came crawling back to Europe was because we rose up against them. Otherwise they'd still be here Sieg Heiling into the next sunset.

Romanum et Britannia Minor and Axis corporation

Veneti marsei

I just want a Germany to exist for RP reasons

Das funfte kaiserreich

Veneti marsei wrote:Germany, don't let them push you around. They are a fledgling North American nation, they have no right to demand the establishment of their interests within Germany whilst providing nothing to you. YOU are the one giving THEM their land.

RP IC:
It's ok. We are kind of at fault for oppressing their people for so long. Besides, we are planning on creating a Republic with a fixed number of parties.

Currently, The Federal Germany is planned will have a congressional democracy with a Congress, Cabinet and Supreme Court.

We are also planned to have five major parties in total, to avoid lock between a two party system.

1- National Unity Party [Authoritarian Right]
2- National Labour Party [Authoritarian Left]
3- National Utocratic Party [???]
4- National Commerce Party [Libertarian Right]
5- National Progressive Party [Libertarian Left]

Das funfte kaiserreich

Das funfte kaiserreich wrote:RP IC:
It's ok. We are kind of at fault for oppressing their people for so long. Besides, we are planning on creating a Republic with a fixed number of parties.

Currently, The Federal Germany is planned will have a congressional democracy with a Congress, Cabinet and Supreme Court.

We are also planned to have five major parties in total, to avoid lock between a two party system.

1- National Unity Party [Authoritarian Right]
2- National Labour Party [Authoritarian Left]
3- National Utocratic Party [???]
4- National Commerce Party [Libertarian Right]
5- National Progressive Party [Libertarian Left]

By the way Utocratic north america, what does Utocracy even exactly entail? You kind of just seem like a dictatorship with a capitalist economy.

Romanum et Britannia Minor and Utocratic north america

Das funfte kaiserreich

Veneti marsei wrote:I just want a Germany to exist for RP reasons

In terms of RP, my nation is honestly incapacitated beyond repair. My once glorious military has been obliterated. And I can't really even partake in colonialism anymore without massive scrutiny.

Plus, every single one of the old enemies of the Global Defence Pact are prolly gonna puppeteer me. Democracies are very prone to that, but my people don't seem to have much of a choice to be frank verdammt.

Utocratic north america

Odrya

Das funfte kaiserreich wrote:By the way Utocratic north america, what does Utocracy even exactly entail? You kind of just seem like a dictatorship with a capitalist economy.

Utocracy is effectively a Republic form of government that is non-democratic and effectively pursues the creation of Utopia as their primary goal.

Of course, its a whole other ball game if you want me to tell you what exactly our Utopian vision even is... considering we feel democracy is wholly impractical.

Veneti marsei

Das funfte kaiserreich wrote:In terms of RP, my nation is honestly incapacitated beyond repair. My once glorious military has been obliterated. And I can't really even partake in colonialism anymore without massive scrutiny.

Plus, every single one of the old enemies of the Global Defence Pact are prolly gonna puppeteer me. Democracies are very prone to that, but my people don't seem to have much of a choice to be frank verdammt.

Not RP for the reasons of warfare and stuff, just RP for the sake of having a Germany around.

Plus, don't be so down about it. One, the whole idea of needing the worlds biggest military and colonies everywhere to be prosperous is just plain stupid. I have a relatively small military and one singular colony, and I'm generally booming. Sure, I may not be the biggest guy on the world stage, but I'm influential and well-allied enough that I'm pretty secure.

Look to modern day Germany for an example. Tiny (up until recently) military, zero colonies, and they're one of the biggest economic powerhouses of Europe. Use trade and shipping to your advantage, develop a spy network instead of the biggest military, essentially BECOME A MODERN NATION. And Veneti Marsei will help you with the first steps in the economy, and would always love to trade.

A democratic Germany will have a friend in Veneti Marsei.

Potenzia, Romanum et Britannia Minor, and Das funfte kaiserreich

Das funfte kaiserreich

Veneti marsei wrote:Not RP for the reasons of warfare and stuff, just RP for the sake of having a Germany around.

Plus, don't be so down about it. One, the whole idea of needing the worlds biggest military and colonies everywhere to be prosperous is just plain stupid. I have a relatively small military and one singular colony, and I'm generally booming. Sure, I may not be the biggest guy on the world stage, but I'm influential and well-allied enough that I'm pretty secure.

Look to modern day Germany for an example. Tiny (up until recently) military, zero colonies, and they're one of the biggest economic powerhouses of Europe. Use trade and shipping to your advantage, develop a spy network instead of the biggest military, essentially BECOME A MODERN NATION. And Veneti Marsei will help you with the first steps in the economy, and would always love to trade.

A democratic Germany will have a friend in Veneti Marsei.

Thanks... That actually means a lot.

You know what? I actually have a good few ideas thanks to you.

Say, want to consider the formation of a trade pact once the peace treaty is signed? A way of securing mutual interest.

Veneti marsei

Das funfte kaiserreich wrote:Thanks... That actually means a lot.

You know what? I actually have a good few ideas thanks to you.

Say, want to consider the formation of a trade pact once the peace treaty is signed? A way of securing mutual interest.

Of course. Common markets can only ever be a benefit to both parties. You will have Veneti Marseis wealth behind you in your quest to develop and democratize.

Veneti marsei

RP

Veneti Marsei implores the international community today to allow for the re-establishment of a new, democratic Germany in its homeland, citing the increasing evidence that the German masses desire self-governance, and that they should be permitted to have it.

An excerpt from Chancellor Dion Savomes address:
"Veneti Marsei is a nation that believes in second chances. For both the people and nations alike, there is always improvement. Nations are not evil, rather they are born of their circumstances. If we wish for a brighter future in Europe and across the world, we must MAKE IT. And this brighter future begins with the establishment of a democratic German homeland.

If we quit the first, second, third, fourth, fifth time a seafaring vessel capsized and failed, then we would never have discovered the world. Rather, you improve upon the last, until, with time, you get it right.

For Germany, we must not forget but forgive. I call to you, leaders of the world, give the German people the home they so want!

Kingdom of the Indus, Romanum et Britannia Minor, and Das funfte kaiserreich

RP

Protests have erupted in Tokelau and Beni Sargawan due to recent implementation of immigration citizenship tests and tightening of immigration laws. With a significant amount of protesters being 1st generation immigrants, raising concerns about their families being unable to enter the country and join them.

The protests mainly erupted due to an improvised vessel carrying around 120 illegal refugees sinking and the ship washing up in the shores of Java due to a storm. Sadly no survivors have been found and disturbing images of the corpses of the refugees were spread online. This has sparked outrage among the citizens as they blame the tight immigration laws for the desperate attempts to enter the country.

Navy patrols have also arrested and rerouted around 216 other vessels attempting to illegally immigrate into the country, and have been resisted by one such ship that was armed with an old naval gun. No casualties have yet been reported for both sides.

Utocratic north america

Odrya

Pan-Pacific States wrote:RP

Protests have erupted in Tokelau and Beni Sargawan due to recent implementation of immigration citizenship tests and tightening of immigration laws. With a significant amount of protesters being 1st generation immigrants, raising concerns about their families being unable to enter the country and join them.

The protests mainly erupted due to an improvised vessel carrying around 120 illegal refugees sinking and the ship washing up in the shores of Java due to a storm. Sadly no survivors have been found and disturbing images of the corpses of the refugees were spread online. This has sparked outrage among the citizens as they blame the tight immigration laws for the desperate attempts to enter the country.

Navy patrols have also arrested and rerouted around 216 other vessels attempting to illegally immigrate into the country, and have been resisted by one such ship that was armed with an old naval gun. No casualties have yet been reported for both sides.

I think a simple solution here would be to just ban protests.

Also, why not just sink the immigrant ships? Are they refugees?

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